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Ebay Sellers - Beware Of Buyer Coinsland1867 (Formerly Numisport456)

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 Posted 09/15/2018  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jarms049 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think at this point given the fact we have his name and address, someone who has fallen victim to his scam should call the Sūrete du Quebec (RCMP equivalent in Quebec). This guy is a fraudster.
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 Posted 09/15/2018  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 09/17/2018  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This guy is a fraudster.


The police will not lay charges and the courts will not convict anyone, unless you can prove that a criminal act (i.e., fraud) had occurred, beyond reasonable doubt.

Collectively, between some of you, and Coin Hunter's dealer friend, you may have something, but the police will not do your homework for you. A civil lawsuit might be a better course of action... but that means ponying up for the fees and a good lawyer - which for some of you, you might find yourself asking, "is it worth it?"

That is the reality of our legal system...
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 Posted 09/18/2018  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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but that means ponying up for the fees and a good lawyer - which for some of you, you might find yourself asking, "is it worth it?"


Definitely worth it.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke
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 Posted 09/21/2018  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An honest seller or "scammer buster" would mention that the original coloured and gold plated coins were removed from this 2009 Montreal Canadiens set and replaced by regular coins. Even if one received the set as such, a thoughtful seller would inform potential unaware clients of the switch.

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Coincidence that the 2x switched coins are selling on his other account odovdo123?
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Let's see if by reading this post he changes anything.
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 Posted 09/22/2018  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job Normand. There may be hope for you after all.
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 Posted 09/22/2018  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add freeqgirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been collecting large cents and this makes me not want to even start looking at ebay to buy coins. Also, if he is guilty of thieving well over $3000 in coins, I know that here in the states it's a felony. Sounds like between all the sellers and ebay, he doesn't have much chance to not be guilty.
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 Posted 09/23/2018  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
but getting a inter-country subpoena is a lot of work and needs a CO on the Fed lvl stateside. Chances are he'd be tried in the US first then in Canada. The US courts would be more into trying him then the Canadian system which is more tied up then those ear buds in your pocket.
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 Posted 09/23/2018  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a general rule ebay is on the side of the buyer. Normand takes advantage of this to pad his wallet. As a buyer you have much less to worry about than sellers. Just remember, if it's too good to be true it might just not be true. If you're not sure, have somebody video the package when you open it to make sure it contains what you ordered in the condition you ordered it. If you get something unexpected then ebay and/or PayPal will make sure you get your money back. If you're returning something as 'not as described' then make sure you video doing up the package and ship with tracking and you will be covered. And take a skim through the feedback of the seller before you buy for any warning flags! But keep in mind there are two sides to every story so look for a pattern of negative/neutral feedbacks, what the seller's response was etc.
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 Posted 09/23/2018  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ty88ty2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't have said it better myself. Great advise.
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 Posted 09/25/2018  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgroundzero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another update coinsland1867 has changed his ebay account named kuh_85* to iou_69cents
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 Posted 09/29/2018  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgroundzero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another update coinsland1867 ebay accounts:100-dollar-bill, jgroundzero*, odovdo123, scammerhunter1 have (No longer a registered user) on them.
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 Posted 09/29/2018  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Karma will catch up to him.

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 Posted 09/30/2018  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunatly in indeterminate amount of time, in which he continues to ruin people...
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 Posted 09/30/2018  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting that his accounts were closed. My guess is that he starts selling/buying/ripping off people under a friends name.
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