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 Posted 08/31/2008  1:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Collecting-Styles This may seem like a silly question but I was just curious.

Type collecting is a fairly popular coin collecting style here in the U.S. but is it as popular outside the U.S.? Whitman & Dansco used to make type set albums for non-U.S. Countries and Territories many years ago but today they make very few (if any) leading me to think that it is not that popular.

Any opinions?
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 Posted 08/31/2008  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In Poland, type collecting is virtually unknown. I got to know it only when I joined CCF.

For example, here, everyone scrambles to get every single date and every ACDEFGHJ mintmark of the German coins.
I wonder what the dealer will say when I tell him "I don't want this coin, I have this TYPE already"
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 Posted 08/31/2008  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Litotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a type collector of world coins with another couple of interests thrown in. I want all the dates of the Norwegian coins. I also want all possible dates, at least one coin from each year - not necessarily Norwegian (there are several years without any Norwegian production at all). And I have a denomination collection.

Most local collectors I know focus on Norway amd/or antique coins. In the last category there are not many dates to concern oneself with, but many variations of the same type. But we also have som world type collectors. I do not know anyone ambitious enough to collect world coins by date. But there are some who pick an additional country or two, like Russia or Great Britain - or Sweden and Denmark.
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 Posted 08/31/2008  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I collect France and French Feudal states silver coins (ecus, 1/2 ecus, francs, 1/2 francs, testons and 1/2 testons) by date and mint mark from 1500 to the French Revolution, and Swedish silver coins from 1600s to early 1700s by date. Also I collect British crowns and half crowns by date from 1600s to early 1700s. Also some Italian States from the same time period. I enjoy the challenge of completing a date run of an old series.
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 Posted 08/31/2008  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Litotes - that kind of confirms my suspicions that outside the U.S. World Coin Type Sets are about the norm whereas individual countries are not.

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In Poland, type collecting is virtually unknown...everyone scrambles to get every single date and every ACDEFGHJ mintmark

DL20K - Wow! is that achievable for the average collector? I'm assuming this is the norm in Europe and n0t just limited to Poland. Now that you are familiar with type sets it sounds like your embracing it


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Ken_3567, I'd say that with a LOT of effort.. buying bulk lots for the common ones and the keys individually..
But - what's the difference between having 20 and 40 large-eagle 10 pfennig CN coins? It doesn't make your collection any more impressive. Neither does 20 more zinc swastikas. 20 Hindenburg 5 mark coins look like a hoard or dealer's lot more than a collection to me.
What would impress me in a German collection:
* the commemoratives - the obvious rarities of 1920s and early 1930s.
* the unusual ones - the Wehrmacht series, occupation issues, colonies.
Not a hoard of Hindenburgs

Poland is always collected by date. Since we have one mint, there are only WITH and WITHOUT mintmark varieties.

Another thing I haven't noticed here is .. "buying an ugly coin in AG to fill a hole". That really baffled me at first. I was 'taught' to never buy that. Instead:
a) wait and accumulate more money to buy a fairly nice coin,
b) buy other coins in nice grade.
Have a (rare) 1934 5 groszy in bad grade? UNSELLABLE. I know, I tried. The dealer told me nobody would even look at a coin like this. And it was fully recognizable and identifiable as original.

Keeping coins. Up to a few years ago the PVC stuff was prevalent. Only then airtites and 2x2s became more widespread. Whitman-style albums appeared really recently and since not so long ago you can get a set of these from 1923 onwards, I believe.

Not regarding collecting but exonumia - love tokens and holed&plugged coins - nothing like that here!

That's all I can think of now.
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 Posted 08/31/2008  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, Germany sure does have a lot...more than enough to keep you busy. Usually an AG purchase is one of impatience so saving for the better coin is always the better option unless it's truly rare in both mintage and price.

I'm trying to work on a type set based on my family history. My grandfather came from Poland (circa 1908) and since Russian coins were circulating from his birth (1885) to when he emigrated that's what I'm focusing on. Once he is done I'll work on my great grandfather (1841-1892). After this I'm done since I do not know my family history beyond that.
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 Posted 09/01/2008  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kim,
Here in Egypt most of the collectors and almost all of the dealers are type collectors. For my self, I started as a type collector but found that it is more challenging to collect by date. Specially that I am interested in collecting Egyptian coins before 1950.
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 Posted 09/01/2008  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the tally for type set popularity so far is:
Europe - No (except for world coin sets)
Egypt - Yes
U.S. - Yes
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Kuwait
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 Posted 09/01/2008  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a different style.
I collect Provincial Indian coins of Pre-1800.
My new MAIN goal is to collect 1400~1799 European coinage, mainly Hungary, Austria, German States/Germany and Polish coins, Occasianolly, if I get the oppurtunity, then french and British.
Aiming for nothing past 1800.

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Finland
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 Posted 09/02/2008  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eurocoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here in Finland most of the collectors collects by date Finnish, Swedish or Russian coins because of historic connections. When I was a kid, I collected Finnish coins by date but sold the rest and kept only one example by type. On the same time I started with world coin collection by type. I just don't want to look (and buy) 25 coins with same design.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am an odd-ball creature. I collect only coins of Yugoslavia, and the republic states that were once part of Yugoslavia (Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Slovenia, Montenegro & Serbia). I collect by date/mintmark. I have ALL Yugoslavian circulation coinage issued since inception in 1919, all Slovenian circulation coinage since independence in 1991, all Macedonian circulation coinage since independene in 1991, most Croatian circulation coinage since independence in 1991, and most Bosnian circulation coinage since independence in 1992. Slowly adding in the NCLT commemoratives, but limited funds makes this a slow project. I will probably be expanding into Albanian coinage in the near future.

I guess I have the date/mintmark mentality of a US collector, but specialized in a different region of the world.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alakazam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My collecting style is a bit of everything. I'm not particularly interested in spans of dates, but rather 'sets' of coins, especially the issues of old European coinage before Euros came about.

Along with that I like to collect other Crown Dependencies coinage like the Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Gibraltar.

Unusually it seems here on this forum, I'm not bothered about getting BU or Proof coins - as long as it's relatively intact and looks different to what I'm used to I'm happy. Besides, I don't have the money for that kind of thing I'm only a student.
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I pretty much collect only what I like, based on the design of the coin, rather than as an investment. I've also been collecting coins from my birth year, 1945, although some war-ravaged countries in Europe apparently did not mint any coins in that year. I'm also happy as a clam going through grab-bags of foreign coins in search for "treasure". Old Romans also are of interest, although I'll never be able to afford a comprehensive set encompassing the range of Roman rulers.
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 Posted 09/03/2008  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kreuzer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I assume my collecting style isnīt representative.
I have a "three class collection":

- First class collection. Austrian coins before 1945 and coins of the territories under austrian administration (Hungary, Lombardy, etc.) before 1918. I collect by KM, and look for UNC coins when is possible. When the coin is not common, I accept VF. In the future I could collect different mints, but never, never, different dates.

- Second class collection. European coins (1900-1945). I have a weakness for the designs of silver coins in 1910-1940. I collect by KM, never by mint and never by date. I look for VF or UNC coins.

- Third class collection. Itīs a some kind of "caprice". Coins from arab countries from 1800-1945. I donīt have a defined collection style and I accept even F coins.

"Holed and modified coins", are a conflict. I have only one so far (30 kreuzer from Galicia-Lodomeria, 1776, with signs of having been used as a button), but Iīm considering collecting these coins when there is no possibility of having better grades.
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 Posted 09/03/2008  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^ This sounds so good. That will be the general direction where my collection is heading once I finally get some interesting coins. Please tell me you have a 7 kreuzer coin for sale
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09/03/2008 12:56 pm
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