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We need to see photos of the complete item, both front and back.
I'm sure it's not a coin. If I had to guess from those photos, I'd say it looks more like a button.
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Unsure, but agree we need full pics of both sides.  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
08/10/2019 6:10 pm
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Thank you guys for sharing me your interest and it's a coin and not anything else , I will support my replay with two images for this coin and another brass coin from the year 1962 , one image with my flash on while the other image without any flash .
And I want to save the other side of the coin hidden for now because I will start one important topic about that side as it shows something never seen before! Of course the face of Hicetas is on that side!
Anyway identifying the true metal of this coin is so important for now and I should do my best with your help to keep this coin in its original condition without a single scratch , I think this is important coin!  
Edited by Hicetas
08/10/2019 8:23 pm
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Lebanon
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The Best Shining image I can get for the Coin! 
Edited by Hicetas
08/10/2019 8:45 pm
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@Hicetas, first welcome to CCF. Second, based on your pics it looks copper to me (or at least an alloy of copper).
When you are read to show us the other side of this piece, please add the those pics to this thread so we don't end up with duplicate threads. Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thank you Spence! , Alright I'll add the other side here to this thread very soon , I need to attach what I'v Discovered as something never seen before! particularly for Hicetas and generally for any Ancient Greek ruler or a tyrant or a king whatever!
I'm not the one who can determine the Authenticity of my coin and I hope someone else do this job and do it carefully because it would be a real valuable coin or nothing at all ,
I'll be back soon with the new images and what I really think about the other side and the coin generally Incase if this coin is authentic and not a tourist forged copy as someone already said couple of days ago!
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Lebanon
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Thank you Jbuck!
Edited by Hicetas
08/11/2019 12:29 am
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Lebanon
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Well , let's get started with showing you what world's specialist wrote about this coin particularly and here is one of the finest articles you can find online anytime , this is everything you would find while trying to know more about the coin which widely considered by specialists as world's most beautiful coin ever! Here is the article and I want you the focus on the sentence starting with " Charioteer" because it's important!  So he is just a Charioteer just like any Charioteer, this is what specialists say every time they start describing the design of this coin ,  Well , This is the time to find out who usually used to drive a fast quadriga and if he was just a Charioteer or someone else like an ancient greek god! The search will end up with two results only ,, This quadriga is the chariot of gods , this quadriga is used during the ancient Olympic games and Romans used it later and surly after the death of Hicetas! Only two ancient greek gods used to ride fast quadriga, Appolo and Hades!  I don't think Hicetas was willing to start the Olympic Games in Sicily to have this quadriga on his own coin! If so then specialists are right and it's definitely a Charioteer and not any god! So let me show you the other side of my coin now to see which god Hicetas was in like with or maybe more than just likes according to his own beliefs!  Can you see the mask on the backside of Hicetas head ?! I didn't see anything like this before! I wish this is not scaring any and at least we know now why Alexander the Great always showing up with two horns! Very interesting! " Arethusa"?! Edited by Hicetas
08/11/2019 01:52 am
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@Hicetas, any chance of you posting more clear (in focus) pictures of your coin. From what I can tell so far, yours looks cast, but I'd like to have some confirmation by looking at the fine details.
Also, I'm going to ask the mods to move this thread over to the ancients section of CCF so that we can get better eyes on it.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Unfortunately this is a modern cast fake of the famous Syracuse Dekadrachm - they are typically found in shops in the middle East where merchants try to take advantage of tourists and the likes who wouldn't know how to tell the fake from the real. These display all of the tell tale signs of a cast:
1. Chatter (casting artifacts) in the fields and crevices etc
2. Mushy details (this one is from a die several generations removed from the original coin and detail is lost each generation - this is a cast of a cast of a cast)
3. Incorrect metal
I don't know what the metal is for sure, but it is likely brass. Syracuse minted their coinage from fine silver and had particular pride in the artistry of their currency, so they maintained the silver content right up to their conquering.
Bad luck! But the good news is that, if you are interested, ancient coins can be had on the cheap if you avoid these sorts of high calibre issues. Authentic greek bronzes can be had for $10-20, Roman coins even cheaper. Of course, even though this one isn't real, it has still given you an opportunity to learn about the ancient world and that has value in itself.
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Well guys I do appreciate your replies!
Ben can't you see that I have a different coin than the fake one?!
Spence , there is no need for detailed images here , I believe you start learning now the difference between one Ancient Greek Coin and a fake coin made by someone belongs to the recent civilizations, mine would be an ancient copy at it's worse but copying what exactly?! A copy for the silver coin ?! Is this the silver coin planet ? lol
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Ben you are showing me copies for the silver coin only!
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