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There is no way I would get rid of it. I have been doing this to many years to just give up. Starting Monday road trip begins finding someone to look at it. Does the mints keep records of die damage and replacement time.
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mercystjohn asked... Quote:
Does the mints keep records of die damage and replacement time. If they do, I've never seen anything like it shared with coin collectors. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Thanks, I see a long road ahead. My kind of project.
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A few thoughts:  Would you be willing to post photos showing the entire obverse and entire reverse? The posted photos are close, but not complete. Would you be willing to post detail photos of two additional areas: the dark area in the center of the head and the area including the bottom of the Memorial through the letters "NE" of ONE and "CE" of CENT? It strikes me (pun intended) as a bit too coincidental that the damage almost exactly corresponds with the size and shape of the head. While possible, it does not seem random. Die logs (or registers) would exist to track dies by number, for security purposes. These logs almost certainly would long since have been archived at NARA. They would not help, because they would not contain details of the reasons for die replacement and would not be able to be matched to a particular coin. |
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Yes I will do that. I understand about the records, it was a idea.
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Bedrock of the Community
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This coin was altered. It was normal when struck, then someone altered it. If it were a mint error, there would have been several in circulation. (As many a one million) There isn't cause this coin was altered.
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I mean, I would agree that that is very likely the case, Coop, but couldn't it also be the case that the die would have been quickly taken out of service once such a major defect was noticed? There are plenty of major varieties like the 1958 DDO for which there are only a small handful of known examples. Edit: that said, I'm looking at the new pictures of the reverse, and there does appear to be an indent below the memorial building on the reverse that wasn't visible in the original pictures. To me, that's the nail in the coffin, so I'm going to say PMD as well. Edited by SamCoin
05/03/2020 6:22 pm
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I have been doing a lot of measuring. Looks like the center of impact was between the upper ear and eye. Everything is even or below the rim of coin. My question is, if the impact of something that don't belong in the die could create heat. So that would create the impression on reverse. Causing the thinner to move towards the thicker, this could have been taking place till it reached room temp. Just wish I was able to measure the thickness of the thin spot.
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Sorry, Mercystjohn, you can see in the most recent picture you uploaded that there's a dent on the reverse of the coin, directly opposite where the damage is on the front. Just a very interesting example of PMD. |
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Nice follow-up images. The indent opposite Lincoln's head was visible in the original reverse image as well if you look closely. I just thought someone might be getting it prepped to turn into a Hobo cent with Abe wearing an Alien "face Hugger" as a COVID mask.  Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Thank you for posting the additional pics! The reason I wanted to see the area between the base of the Memorial and the NE/CE is exactly what @SamCoin and @Petespockets55 noted. The obverse closeup shows the metal displacement from whatever damaged the coin. The fairly minor reverse displacement suggests that the coin rested on a piece of wood, while whatever damaged the portrait was squeezed into the obverse. Hammering the coin would have left more abrupt obverse displacement and greater reverse damage. I suspect it was squeezed in a vise, unless the perpetrator had a press available. Interestingly, this coin shows signs of circulation after the damage. In any case, it's PMD. |
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It looks like some knuckle head may have shot it with one of these.  |
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I want to thank everyone that has input on this. I have 2 more pics showing the spread difference of two 63 D coins.   |
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I've seen this kind of alteration before. I don't know how it's done, but it definitely didn't happen at the Mint.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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