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1910-S LWC. What's Your Thought?

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I just bought this coin off of ebay. The sellers pics are great so posting them. Unfortunate about the reverse of this coin but still an oddball. I saw something wrong with the obverse of this coin right away is and started digging. I think I figured it out. Not going to tell you what I figured out. What do you think?
1910-S-LWC.-What's-Your-Thought?
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I think It's an altered date. Probably a 1940-S that was altered to look this way. This is one of the most common ways people fake a 1914-D. You can see an unusually large spacing between the 9 and 1.

-CH27

Edited to explain the reasoning for the alteration
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I'm going to have to agree with CH27, certainly seems like the only way this could've happened is it being altered, meaning it's just damage.
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, the space between the 9 and 1 in date .
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 Posted 05/21/2020  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, this is an altered 1940-S. Haven't seen one of these in a long tome.
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Also a DDO. That's the main reason I got it! Thanks guys!
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Notice that the tail end horizontal crossbar of the (former) 4 is showing on the right side of the upright.
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Yes it does seem to be a DDO but this altercation is...well, it ruins it completely.

It's interesting, but it has no value.
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Yes no value to this coin in more than one way but cool oddity coin to add to my collection. I may soak it in acetone to try to clean up the reverse.
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I agree. I try to keep what "educational pieces" I can as well as garage-manufactured errors.

-CH27
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I made this with Photoshop a long time ago. And just like your coin, the space in the center is where the left side of the 4 was removed.
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Wow, whoever made it did an amazing job of erasing the 4, but it's hard to hide the spacing. No way that's a legitimate 1910.
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I'd disagree with the no value bit. It's a legit DDO on an honestly very good altered date counterfeit. True, there are troubles with trying to sell such a coin, but it's easily worth $10 to a counterfeit collector. Not so much value for the DDO, but makes the counterfeit a bit unique along the way.
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Ah yes of course Tropicalbats, if you factor in the actual neatness of the counterfeit, then yes it would have some value to a collector of such things, as it is very severe. I was just mainly referring to if you tried to sell it to a variety collector.

But again, having an altered coin, where the DDO is legitimate, yes it would carry value to a counterfeit collector.
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1940 S DDO, Class VI
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Neat coin and thanks for sharing it with us. It's definitely an interesting and odd "monkey".
No one seems to have noticed the class 6 DDR as well.

DDD-002 with either DDR-004 or DDR-005. Both DDR's are similar but I think DDR-004 since there doesn't appear to be any separation in the tips of the wheats. (glue residue on the reverse also)
DDO-002: http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...0SDDO002.htm

DDR-004:http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...0SDDR004.htm

DDR-005: http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...0SDDR005.htm


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but this altercation is...well, it ruins it completely.

Did I miss the rumble on here over this one? LOL
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