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1920 Philadelphia Off-Center Wheatback Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 05/27/2020  11:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Yubah to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, new here, I just started coin collecting a few months ago and learning more about what I should be trying to spot. Today in the parking lot at Walmart I found a 1920 penny with no mintmark (I assume Philadelphia) and noticed the face is off center.

I am curious what the value of it may be and to know more about the error itself. Also, unrelated, but I have already a 1965 penny where the words "In God We Trust" have no gap at the top between the rim. They seem to be melded into the rim itself, especially the top of the "W" in "We" at 12 o'clock. I haven't been able to find much about this error, if it is an error, on the internet and would like to know more.

I appreciate anybody lending insight and your honest & educated opinions, thank you!
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 Posted 05/27/2020  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not off center. This is a misaligned die, otherwise known as MAD. Because it's an earlier wheatie, I would give it a price tag of a dollar or so.

Relating to the 1965 you mentioned, two things. Die Deterioration Doubling and simple wear of the die. Not worth anything.
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 Posted 05/28/2020  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF...If you want to get a lot of information quickly...Type into the search box CoopHome or always click on any blue lettering words or phrases you find here in comments

Edited: forgot to add...good luck on future finds, have fun....
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 Posted 05/28/2020  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yubah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice to meet you! Thanks for the info, I think I see now, so a MAD is when only one side is off? It would be off center only if the front AND the back were off. So that's really neat then, I guess I found my first one didn't I?
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 Posted 05/28/2020  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct Yubah, nice job!
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 Posted 05/28/2020  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct. Just one side affected. These are common, but if the devices fall over the edge then they are collectable:
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Note the information on the full image? Die mis-alignment is the cause for this. The hammer die is adjustable, the anvil die is not. So if the centering of the hammer die isn't correct you will see examples like these:
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You can often see the weakness also on the reverse opposite side of the coin because the die is out of center, the opposite devices can be weak.
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