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Unknown Coin Found In My Garden

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Hi ALL

I wondered if anyone could please help me to identify this coin, I have spent hours online trying to locate it.

Sadly the coin is not in the best of conditions, I found it while digging in the back garden and tried to clean it up as best I could without damaging it.

If anyone could help it would be most appreciated.

Just encase it helps, I am in the United Kingdom and live on the south coast (East Sussex) and live in a farm house built in the 14th century, which was one of the gatehouses to Henry VIII hunting grounds. I mention this, because I assume the coin is after that date, although I cannot identity the king/queen on the back....

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MateyUK
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What is the diameter?
The design in the first photo with the letter L in four places makes me think this is a coin or token of one of the French kings named Louis, 17th century . We have a few experts here on French coins who may be able to ID it rather quickly.
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My guess is an early 18th century French token. The design resembles certain French Louis XIV gold coins from around 1700, but I can't see that it actually matches any French coin.
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The alternating crowns and Fleur de lis are a pattern from the Krauwinckel tokens of Nuremburg, but I think usually they are in thirds not quarters. Also, I don't remember the inclusion of the letter L into the pattern so maybe a French jeton is more likely as noted by @erafjel.
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I wonder if the the grunge could be somewhat removed to get a better look.
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Hi All

Thank you all for the feedback, Ive also been looking up different KING Louis of France, as I had feeling it may have been french as well. But no luck as of yet.

Sadly the coin is very warn and there is little to see, the images I uploaded before had been enhanced and I have tried to do the same again, but I'm worried if I try and remove anymore rust, that I will loose the images I have. here are two more, incase it helps.

I was trying to get a clearer picture of the writing on both sides.

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Does anyone know the significance of the four letter L's in the middle, I have noted that some king Louis of France have six L's, but some only 1 or 2? but cannot work out the significance of the letter or how many times it appears....

Also just to reply to an earlier post, the coin is about 2cm / 20mm in width/Diameter

Many thanks

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On coins, the number of L's has no significance. The L's are just part of a decorative design and the number can range from 1 to 8.
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The better pictures do help. I'll search my books for four of each: Fleur de lis, L, and crown.
I see a large profile, but no hint of a date or denomination.

Update: Not hard to find four of each plus profile as above, but no match on any coins I saw.
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