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Any idea as to ID and/or value. I could not zoom in as these are very small. Mexico is dated 1865. Thanks much

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 Posted 11/24/2008  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, the Eagle is one of those "mini" coins that are just cheap duplicates and made to fob off innocent gold investors or collectors.

As for the Mexican ones, it think it's this
http://cgi.ebay.com/mini-GOLD-COIN-...39485QQitemZ120338614483QQsalenotsupported
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 Posted 11/25/2008  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buzzard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Mexican coin is a fantasy coin that is meant to resemble what a gold peso of Emperor Maximilian I would have looked like. Maximilian never issued a one peso coin.

My understanding is that there is a Mexican tradition that involves giving gold coins for a certain special occasion (perhaps at a wedding). These Maximilian fantasies were apparently made to serve as a smaller substitute for the real thing. They vary in gold quantity and the details of design. A few people collect them by die variety, but they are generally recognized as having a low value.
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 Posted 11/25/2008  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both appear to be fantasy coins.
Probably no gold in either, altho they may be plated.
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Those are pretty good calls from somewhat fuzzy pics.
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From what I understand, thses tiny coins are exactly that, fantasy pieces. I do believe they are 9K gold. I could be wrong though.
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Thanks all. I will offload them on ebay if I can only get a good scan given the small size...
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i think I have something similar. I wasn't able to find much info on mine either, but I think its some sort of wedding token they are given out at weddings for good luck or something like that.

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Interesting token...Google translates the reverse as "I remember marriage".
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Close, Kurt, but more likely "wedding memory"
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I had a quick peek and ebay is awash with these , most are listed as 10k gold but very small 10mm.
doesn't mean they are gold though I suppose , ive seen them at 99c
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Here's a copy and paste of an older post of mine from a different thread... (edit, with picture! and no smilies)

Note that the gold 1865 Maximillian Mexican pesos are fantasy coins, or wedding coins and are only gold plate(hge-heavy gold electroplate...4 atoms thick instead of the usual 2). I have earlier examples('70s to perhaps '95) that have the gold content marked on the coin. These coins would be solid 8kt to 14kt and can be marked on the either side.(If you would like pix just say da word).If the coin is not marked I would think it's only plated and see many a novice get burned on ebay...way too many to warn. They should be checking feedback...the warnings are rite there to read.

...a plethora of tiny, modern, cheap like borsch fantasy Emperor Maximillian Mexican gold pesos(bagged by hundreds). If they ain't marked they ain't even worth postage at cost(gold plated base metal). They were also mentioned in the medals/medallion/token topic. These types of trinkets are also now produced as Krugerrands, St. Gauden Double Eagles, and others... just as little trinkets though. So these gold minis are not of value to the majority people here.

Here's a picture of an older marked one... marked as to gold content that is. But they are tiny, small as a pencil eraser.

Some specs on the one pictured;
8kt
625mg
10mm

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IBGolden--thanks for that useful info! I'll make a mental note.
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IBGolden--thanks for that useful info!


, a very informative and helpful write-up.
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That info by IBGolden maybe should be coupled with KurtS's findings on my coin and stickied up somewhere.Theres hundreds of those 10mm coins on ebay if not thousands,only a matter of time before lookalikes of mine show up.
We could save members a lot of aggrevation and frustration not to mention money.
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