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Pillar of the Community
United States
1361 Posts |
Honestly it is less distracting than reading hits in a field to me...I'd send it in.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
This coin is one I think is worth sending in. On a busy day they may not even see the issue we are all looking at now that it's been pointed out.
In MS65 it's $1800-2500 In MS63 it's $900-1600 In MS63 it's $800
even at half of any of those for a details coin (which I'm not convinced they would call it) it's big enough jump to risk it. Depending on what Zurie payed originally, could be a big wind fall and might only break even, but if you are into it at a good price then it's all upside potential if it goes big.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2Ē variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Edited by westcoin 05/17/2021 01:05 am
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Pillar of the Community
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5672 Posts |
I guess the consensus is to get it graded. I would love to see this in a problem-free holder, so I'll send it in and see what happens. I think it's unlikely that they will just miss the damage, but I'll have to figure out how to get them to grade it on a busy day! I'll update this thread when I get it back.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: If I do send it in, I will definitely update this thread. Please do! It's worth the gamble for this coin IMO. TPGs are anything but consistent about flagging damage but it will be nice to know whether they catch this very inconspicuous PMD.
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New Member
United States
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Is PCGS/NGC really that anal about those kinds of marks? If that is UNC/details, I'm going to start only buying cleaned coins. I am a newbie, but if I can get coins like this for details prices, than why pay up for the 64's, 5's, and 6's?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Please donīt a-penny-sold. Cleaning ruins the toning on silver and leaves a strange brassy surface on the coin if it is copper. It also takes the top layer of metal off of the coin taking off some detail. Cleaned coins are worth less than the uncleaned ones in a worse state.
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Pillar of the Community
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5672 Posts |
Okay, this coin is on its way to PCGS, along with a few other coins. The turnaround time there is currently about 5 to 6 weeks, so it may be awhile before we see how they handle this issue. I'm hoping for the best, but I won't be surprised either way. Thanks everyone for your comments.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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after seeing the close up of the reverse I'm going to recall my details designation. possible MS64 but I'm in at MS63 on this one due to strike and possible luster break on the right obv field which could be from angle/lighting
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
Good luck! Getting my final answer in with all my back and forth antics..... back to my original MS63 with a shot at 64 (easy 64 without the wheelmark), straight grade.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2869 Posts |
I am thinking it will come in at ms-64 but it is ms-63 to me. Nice coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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5672 Posts |
Time to update this thread. I just got the coin and TrueView pics back from PCGS. Not surprisingly, they noted the machine damage and gave it an unc details grade. I originally thought I might break it out if it didn't straight grade, but now I sort of like it in the holder. Still a great looking coin, and I'd say it would be a 65 without the damage. I'll probably end up selling it at some point, but it will be a hard one to price.  
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 Crack it and send it to Anacs .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bummer, I was thinking they wouldn't call that out. But maybe they have spies reading the CCF now!  Really sorry about that, but still think it is worthy of a good price on it, $400-550 at least even for details, this one has good eye appeal, I would sell it raw myself. Good chance others might not even think the area in question is all that bad. That said I wouldn't want to mislead anyone, so maybe just excellent photos and minimal description in an auction.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2Ē variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
 on all counts @westcoin. If it were me, I'd keep it in the holder until you decide what to do, but if you decide to sell, crack it and ditto what westcoin said.
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