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1889 P Morgan Does It Make 67? You Grade.

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 Posted 09/29/2021  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess this proves that handling thousands of graded coins every year for 17 years doesn't make some people competent graders.
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Thanks for the enlargements. I'd say 64 tops as well.
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 Posted 09/29/2021  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Johnsonr29 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This PCGS graded 66+ has way more marks on it and the same exact strike , and it's not the only one , I can see not being a 67 , but saying 64 65 just means you really don't know what your doing or talking about. I can post coin after coin with more marks on it or soft striking that grade 66+ both in PCGS holders and NGC... and I know what people will say, I can see disagreement about one grade level but being that far off means you guys really have no clue what your doing..
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The coin you posted is an ugly 64 at that not unlike its owner.
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Haha now you guys are just salty, same old ebay and flea market coin guys that been here forever. I'll be back with the holder when I get it. #128540;#128537;
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Contact marks are only half the grade. At gem and above luster and eye appeal are paramount.

That said I agree your coin is likely a 64 and possibly a 65 on a good.
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The luster on the PCGS coin is dramatically better than on your coin. We can only go by what we see in the pictures you present.
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You may be one of those people who blindly rely on an opinion from someone who took 5 seconds to assess your coin. Here we like to think for ourselves. You should learn to grade instead of relying on the work others. That lesson applies beyond just coin grading.
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edit to add - on your way out I suggest you take your coin photos and condescending attitude and post both on Collectors Universe, lol...
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Quote:
you guys really have no clue what your doing
You guys are like flea market coin dealers and noobs
Haha now you guys are just salty, same old ebay and flea market coin guys that been here forever
The stupidity of the comments on this site

Well Johnson my boy, with comments like that, I certainly can't say that your just trying to kiss up to the forum so they give you the grades you're looking for. On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised to see some VF grades coming your way, maybe even an details comment or two.
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I am one of the noobs that puts the coin at MS64 with a outside chance of MS65.
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I don't think the pictures are doing this coin any justice. Pictures aren't sharp enough and I think direct sunlight is causing the surfaces and luster to look more impaired than it really is. Fields do look clean, and I'll take a stab and say those cheek marks are pretty superficial. MS65 for me, with a possibility of a one point swing either way with better pics

@Johnsonr29, the comments about the forum members competency in grading is a bit unnecessary. Take a look at previous posts with accurate pictures and you'll find the group consensus is pretty darn accurate. We can only base grade on the photos provided. That said, either your photos aren't doing the coin justice, or your expectations are high. We won't know until we see accurate photos.
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09/29/2021 5:42 pm
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@Johnson29 - It's not often we get a chance to learn from someone with your experience.
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I'm a noob, and all I got to say is WOW...

well the above statement was false, Looks like all the forum noobs have responded to your post.....
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I bet one Morgan dollar the grade ever gets posted
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