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Walker - Deal Or No Deal - Guess The Grade

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 Posted 02/06/2009  3:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 50cents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this 21D Walker real or fake? And guess the grade too..

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 Posted 02/06/2009  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about the real and fake thing.


But.. I would give it a grade of F-12
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 Posted 02/06/2009  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks real...VF-20
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 Posted 02/06/2009  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kceb10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say real and f-15
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 Posted 02/06/2009  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say real and it's an F-12
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 Posted 02/06/2009  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-15 and real.
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 Posted 02/07/2009  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F15 and may make VF20 on a good day. Looks real to me.
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 Posted 02/08/2009  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dewayne,

Beautiful photos, as usual.

You asked about authenticity and I would be a bit concerned. The 2 in the date looks thinner than normal and the bottom stroke is slightly curved. Photos of this key date on Heritage indicate that on genuine examples the 2 is heavier and the bottom stroke is quite flat on the lower edge. This is an expensive coin in VF grade and deceptive forgeries can be produced by carving the 4 on a 1941-D coin into a 2 shape.

I would insist on an authenticity guarantee before buying this coin. It does have a terrific original look and, if genuine, I think it would be a lock for minimum VF-20 at PCGS. I would immediately invest the grading fee and send it in.
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 Posted 02/09/2009  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add groganking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this coin is VF20. It has a great look for the grade. Jaobler raises some important points on authenticity. The 21-D is rare in all grades and therefore a big candidate for copies. It is difficult to tell, but the "2" looks slightly more raised than the other numbers in the date. I found some of the 21-D's on Heritage have a flat lower edge to the "2" as Jaobler stated but others, particularly those not in mint state, seem to have some rounding in the "2", suggesting that the difference is a result of wear. If you acquire and submit, let us know how it turns out.
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 Posted 02/10/2009  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not qualified to comment on whether it has been altered or not. It is at least a VF20. My guess would be VF25. VF30 would not shock me on that year.

Here's a PCGS VF20 1921-S. The coin you posted, if authentic, should grade higher.

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 Posted 02/10/2009  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 50cents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone!

I was ask to post nice images of this key date for future references because of so many fakes being listed on ebay.

The 21D in the VF30 grade is a very low pop coin with a total of 27 coins graded at this grade at NGC and PCGS combined.

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Nice!
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 Posted 02/10/2009  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW!.. Was, I far off with the grade on that one.


Nice coin 50cent
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