"Security" Rolls On Ebay - Beware Of Imitations!

Yes,as I've posted previously,same happened to me about 20 years ago,roll of Norfolk Island Federation 20c coins.
Roll looked a bit suss,opened it up,and NI coins at each end,the rest were made up of normal circulated 20c coins.
Seller claimed no knowledge as he had purchased it on ebay previously,fortunately he refunded purchase costs and apologised,i was lucky.
As an aside back in the 1970's there were lots of Coin rolling machines going to Auction in Aust. as the Banks headed to coin bags,major Dept. stores off loaded hundreds of them so you would think they are still out there.
Easy to print up some roll paper with any logo you like and roll coins.

Haven't got my $ back yet but still trying. The longer this goes on, the more I lose hope. 2K down the drain,...Oh well, silly me.

I did contact Imperial who roll the Cotton and co rolls and I was told that there have been other people who bought 2013 $2 coronation rolls through ebay recently and were ripped off like I was. Different sellers too apparently. Imperial's view is that the scammers open one end of the roll; remove the contents and repack with low value coins and fold the end up again.

I thought it would be too hard to do this without damaging the wrapper and leaving obvious signs of tampering. I just tried it with a security roll from the bank and was surprised about how easy it actually is! A determined scammer who has practiced on some cheap rolls from the bank could do it easily.

Please be aware of this scam. Even Imperial admitted it adversely affects the value of their products but there isn't much they can do about it. I would suggest to anyone who has purchased a Cotton and Co roll on ebay from a seller other than Imperial recently to check the contents of that roll. I would also suggest that you don't purchase any rolled coins other than from the original company that rolls them. I found it surprisingly easy to extract coins from a roll and repack them again and if I could do it on first go, anyone could - especially a determined and practiced scammer. Stay safe people.

The scammers bank on the fact that most people would never open the roll.

Surely sachets are a more secure way of buying/selling coins. Yes, I know there will be "bag marks" but at least you can see that the seller is not trying to rip you off.

Horrible situation you are in Sally. Is the seller claiming you got a full roll but are just claiming you didn't?

Yes,they just work their way thru family members,being banned from ebay isn't much punishment.

Its a lot better these days compared to the early days in Aust. where every 2nd listing was a scam but still a minefield.

I would only buy rolls from reputable established sellers who offer unconditional returns. Scammers use recrimpers to cover up their heinous misdeeds.

Thanks Coaster for your support and going to the effort to find and post that info. Greatly appreciated thank you. . I am still hoping for a refund and ebay says it will happen, just not yet - not sure why it would take so long.

Anyway, just out of interest I had a look to see if any other suspicious looking rolls are up for sale on ebay. There are a few rolls with dodgy looking ends, coins at the end showing the obverse have scratches or signs of circulation or photos are blurred. None of that is necessarily sinister and maybe that's just me being once bitten twice shy. Buyer beware!

Finally received the full refund. Huge relief. I have learned my lesson and won't be buying any rolls from other than Imperial or trusted dealers from now on.

Interesting to see the message from Imperial on their Facebook page regarding the dodgy rolls. I would very strongly urge anyone who has bought ANY roll of coins from individuals on ebay lately to open them up and check the contents. Good luck.