| Author |
 Replies: 23 / Views: 1,813 |
|
New Member
United States
31 Posts |
The way I understand post mint damage vice/hammer coins, is that the "added" devices are incuse and backwards. However..... The "IBE" letters under LIBERTY are not backwards. Shouldn't those 3 letters be backwards if a cent was overlayed onto it and were hammered/viced? Also, the 3 extra letters ("IBE") are not incuse, they are raised devices. Thanks for feedback.    |
|
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3535 Posts |
Interesting, as I think I see partial "LIBERTY" inside that deep gouge.  |
|
Moderator
 United States
56855 Posts |
 A clear pic would be great. John1  |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2852 Posts |
There are ways to make fake double struck coins, as is w/ this old post from TB.... http://goccf.com/t/404097 .... that being said, agree, sharp/clear pics of the area would be helpful. |
|
New Member
 United States
31 Posts |
Here is a close up.  |
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
74237 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
 United States
1502 Posts |
I'm admittedly oblivious to this double punch concept but, I just don't see how that could possibly happen with a die.
|
|
Valued Member
Canada
276 Posts |
Hmmm definately different
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7174 Posts |
I think it looks like the right upright of the M and the ERI from the reverse backwards. That would be the only letters that close to the rim that would transfer. It might have been a hammer strike with two bounces leaving 3 imprints.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Curious that the reverse looks relatively normal.
Edited by Coinfrog
12/01/2023 4:34 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1502 Posts |
Quote:
looks like the right upright of the M and the ERI Ahh, I was seeing the BER from LIBERTY, depressed. |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
8751 Posts |
Nice added closeup pic. Cool looking and look forward to seeing how it turns out.
-makecents-
|
|
Moderator
United States
96250 Posts |
very interesting, curious how the 'LIB' could be inside what looks like the rim of another coin.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1502 Posts |
Hmmm, a what if....
Prior die break and a strike through with fragment. That would be a unique find.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2955 Posts |
Hmm, closeup does not say PMD to me at least, since the letters are rightly orientated in that "fragment" section...  |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
6108 Posts |
Interesting. It would appear that a coin was laid such that part of the rim came across the bottom of the BER in LIBERTY, as seen by the topmost rim imprint on the coin. This imprinted the lettering on the rim of the overlying coin. This is something we see reasonably often, reversed and inset lettering on the rim of a coin. But then they took that coin and knocked or squeezed in onto the fields of this coin three times. What you see is apparently the bottom half of BE and the bottom of the left leg of the R. Now they are raised and correct again. A type of soft die I suppose.
|
| |
Replies: 23 / Views: 1,813 |
Posted 12/01/2023 1:13 pm
