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1834 Cent Grade And Variety?

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 Posted 04/13/2024  04:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add denkan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

How would you grade this one?
If anyone could tell what variety it is I'd be very thankful


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 Posted 04/13/2024  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Large Cent!

My grade VF30.

There are only two varieties of "Small 8" 1834 Large Cents (Newcomb N-1 and N-2)

If you look at the reverse of this coin, note the distinctive heavy recutting on the top of E in CENT and more importantly the "point" below the T in CENT: this is Newcomb 2 (N-2) rated R1/common.

This is an E-MDS (early-mid die state) example. You can see the die crack starting to form between obverse stars 5-11. The profile doubling has not yet occurred, and the denticles are still fairly sharp.

This eventually develops into a complete die crack from S2-S13 with slight profile doubling in the LDS (late die state.)

The VLDS (very late die state) has strong profile doubling (double forehead); the obverse die crack now forms a complete circle through the date and stars, and another die crack on the reverse from the A in STATES to the wreath, along with rust pitting on the upper left reverse, and most of the denticles will be very mushy or gone entirely.
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 Posted 04/13/2024  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say VF-30, possibly 35.
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 Posted 04/13/2024  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice die analysis paralyse. appreciate that

VF35 really close to XF imo



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 Posted 04/13/2024  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denkan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you paralyse for that informative reply

What book/books do you recommend that has information about Newcomb varieties?

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 Posted 04/13/2024  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Real close to EF, VF-35. Great color.
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 Posted 04/13/2024  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a few other than Newcomb's book itself.

I recommend the works of Bill Noyes and John Grellman but they are quite expensive.

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 Posted 04/14/2024  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
vf-35. nice one!
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Nice coin. VF.
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