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I guess that this will just show how out of the loop I am with regard to US coins, but what will be on the obverse? (or is that still up for debate as well?)


Nope, still will be the same VDB right facing Lincoln.


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Isn't the design supposed to depict Abe Lincolns legacy?


Yeah... emblematic of how he kept the union together.
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Isn't the design supposed to depict Abe Lincolns legacy?

Yes, and his holding together of the Union, but apparently they aren't concerned with following the law.

As for the shield design, it is very similar to some of the patrotic CWT's from the 1860's.
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CWT's from the 1860s?
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CWT = Civil War Tokens
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tornanadfrayed75: "Isn't the design supposed to depict Abe Lincolns legacy?"

A shield design was on almost all contemporary U.S. coins
during Lincoln's presidency (except the $3 Gold piece),
so it's a very fitting tribute! The shield is quite
literally the 'chosen' emblem of that time to represent
the preservation of the Union. (its use on pro-Union CWT's
says it all!)

The shield design jbuck posted looks better than
the "LP13" design, at least as a drawing. On a small coin like
the Cent, a simple design like the LP13 might 'translate' better.
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Isn't the design supposed to depict Abe Lincolns legacy?


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Yes, and his holding together of the Union, but apparently they aren't concerned with following the law.


Yes & No respectively, the shield design is known as "The Shield of the Union" and symbolized the restored United States of America. Not exactly as depicted, but certainly close enough to recognize. ~ Jim
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I far prefer the turkey feather bundle. My niece could come up with a more detailed and interesting design than the shield reverse. It does not even look like it is finished. IMHO

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The shield was used before, during, and after the war. As such it bears no special relationship or meaning as to the holding together of the union. It was even used while the union was split apart.
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The shield design looks better than the wheat one.
Id like to see them bring back the 3 cent piece or Half Cent as a nifc, like they did with the double eagle. Something cheaper for the masses.
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The question then is, what is an appropriate image to comply with that mandate?
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I'll say it again -- they should update the look of the Presidents on all coins along the lines of what has been done with the Jefferson nickel. I am sure they could do a great job with "forward facing" Presidents.
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"The question then is, what is an appropriate image to comply with that mandate"

a flag ?
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I don't like either of them. Both are kind of ugly.
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a flag ?
One might say that Conder's arguments against the shield would equally apply to the flag.

The flag did not lose any stars for the Southern States. Actually, two stars were added during the war for Kansas and West Virginia (although Kansas became a state before the war, stars are not added until the first 4th of July after being admitted).

That said, the flag was a consistent symbol before, during, and after the war.

One can argue that it is significant because the flag still exists with as many stars. Had the Union lost the war, surely the stars would have been removed, or more radically, the flag changed altogether. But could this argument be applied to the shield as well? If the Union was drastically changed by (losing) the war, wouldn't the symbols as well?
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The question then is, what is an appropriate image to comply with that mandate?


How about an image of Abe Lincoln beating down Robert E. Lee with a flag in one hand and a shield in the other !?





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