1983 Double Die? (Picture Included)

Sorry, but it appears to be Machine Doubling... but keep looking! They are out there!

Machine Doubling is characterized by flat, shelf-like doubling. On an actual doubled die, the "doubled" part will be the same height as the regular devices.

Nice pictures, though!

Dang!

CCK, when there is true die doubling, the die is struck twice so that you get one complete image of the devise and then a piece of the same image next to it. This is why you hear people talking about devise "spread". There is not always separation but the devise looks much larger than a normal image. In Machine Doubling, there is die noise, chatter, bounce or what ever you choose to call it and it is the flat part of the die hopping up onto the devise which causes the flat or "shelf effect" you hear mentioned regularly. Also, it is on top of the original devise so that the devise and the doubled area combined are the correct size of the devise. The "C" in Cent shows this well. You can see how the southwest corner looks clipped and smaller. Hope this makes some sense.

Jim

Machine Doubling usually has a ashelf like appearance as on this 1964 D nickel.

im still confused about the shelf or dd

Thanks everyone, lol I got exited over nothing, haha

To the original poster - the term is 'doubled die' - not 'double die'.

And keep looking, keep learning. They aren't difficult to discern the difference between, it just takes looking at some real doubled dies for it to click. Often this involves buying at least one real doubled die and looking at it under magnification for the characteristics that make it very different from Machine Doubling.