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 Posted 03/26/2010  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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To the extreme, we could live on spam and top ramen, drive 30 year old cars, and put everything towards the mortgage. But that is just not enjoying life.

Hey, I LIKE Spam and Top Ramen, and I ride a 23 year old motorcycle. I have no mortgage payments and probably close to half or more of my income goes into my collection I AM enjoying my life.
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 Posted 03/26/2010  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so this may seem dumb, but I'm kinda lazy and just want to be reminded of what how much gold is in the $1, $2.5, $5, and $20... thanks
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 Posted 03/26/2010  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check out http://www.coincommunity.com/us_coin_facts/

I looked up the $2.5 it say 4.18 grams of 90% gold. I would expect the $5 to have 2x that, and the $20 to have 8x that.
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 Posted 03/26/2010  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i did check that out. I'm trying to figure OZ...
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 Posted 03/26/2010  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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$1 Gold=0.04837 oz
$2.50 Gold = 0.12094 oz
$3 Gold = 0.14512 oz
$5 Gold = 0.24187 oz
$10 Gold =0.48375 oz
$20 Gold = 0.96750 oz

These are straight out of the RedBook.

My advice if buying gold coins is to read up on them and look for lower mintage dates (esp in Liberty series), many can be had for close if not the same price as a common coin with x10 or x20 the mintage.

Remember Knowledge is key to avoiding lots of mistakes, also if this is for your 7070 it might be best for you to get a couple really nice coins for the album rather than a pile of melt value worn pieces.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lizzyjo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I'm young and still in college, and I don't know anything about investing. However, I've read all the replies and want to add my opinion whether it's welcome or not.

Facts: You have $2000. You collect coins. You want to buy gold coins. You are planning a 7070.

If I were you, I'd buy the highest denomination coins first instead of fractional gold coins. When else are you going to have $2000 budgeted for gold coins? I'd buy a St. Gaudens double eagle first, then an Indian Head eagle. It's a lot easier to buy a gold coin that costs a few hundred dollars because it doesn't take nearly as long to save up for it. If you spend your money buying several fractional gold coins, then at what time are you going to have enough money to buy more expensive gold coins?

Again, *disclaimer* I have no idea which coins will increase in value the most, and I don't know your financial situation. But, if I had the money, I'd rather buy the best of the best.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, quick update.

wife and I went to the coin shop and we did not buy anything. he dealer was very knowledgeable, being 64 yrs old, he had a lot of info about buying gold.

the final verdict in this venture I think will be gold bullion. as young as we are, early 20's, we have a chance to invest. he was discouraging us to buy "date" gold, the saints, indians, etc. for my wife and i, getting as much gold as we can for closest to spot is what we want. I'm kinda bummed, because I really wanted to fill some holes in the 7070, but this way, at least in theory, we can sit on this gold for a while, and later on in life when we are more established, we can look at buying "date" gold as a collectible.

so there you go. we will wait till next week to order a 1oz bar and invest the rest in silver rounds. with splitting it into silver, with the way silver is going, I think it will do pretty well. at my dealer I can get it close to $18/oz.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rustyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What kind of dealer in their right mind would have you buy bullion? APMEX is going to better than he is. He talked a customer out of a sale...
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 Posted 03/27/2010  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add motos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
an honest and trustworthy dealer?
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 Posted 03/28/2010  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even my local dealer/jeweler beats APMEX on junk silver.
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 Posted 03/28/2010  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
again, givin my situation, I understand what he is trying to do. he is helping my wife and I get the better investment, to get as much gold for our dollar. he told me that the date gold, a 1907 saint, which had a $3-400 premium would not be a better investment for us at this time, as we are getting our feet wet. understandable, and I understand that if the economy tanked, a date gold would be just as much as the amount of gold in the coin. I have a hard time getting my mind around buying a gold bar, for one, if never done it, and 2, I like coins so much its just plain hard...

however, everything I am reading is telling me that gold could go up past 2k in the next 2 years, but others say we are at a peaking point, so now is not the best time to buy. even silver sounds good right now too, my in-laws bought a few K of maple silver rounds $5 back in the 90's when silver was $5/oz. not bad.

i can definitely see silver going up more and more. I just do not know if buying gold right NOW, is the smartest thing to do...
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 Posted 03/28/2010  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IN the end the decision is solely on you. If you disagree with what the dealer says or just decide that a hunk of metal is not for you, remember you don't have to do it, this is supposed to be fun, remember...

One thing to remember with bullion, ALL you have is a hunk of metal at spot value (your 1 oz is competing with entire country's reserves of gold which determine the price), if the spot value of 1oz gold drops to $500 you have lost $600 if you go to sell...If gold drops to $500 I don't think you could buy a MS-64 St. Gaudens for $500 (since there is two markets for these numismatic and bullion)...

IF you are worried about the economy tanking and the world ending I think you would be better off purchasing a .45cal H&K pistol and a used AR-15 semi-auto rifle . And trade that silver in for Ammo (which will probably go up faster than silver spot) under this administration...
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 Posted 03/28/2010  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i just dont get it..


i feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

i cannot understand why my dealer would discourage me from buying date gold. I know that my wife and this dealer want the most gold for our $$. but I keep reading that date gold, old coins, do better in the long run. I KNOW that buying date gold is not getting the most gold for your dollar. I KNOW. I realize that they carry a BIG premium. sometimes 500%. I've done research for the past 2 weeks on what kind of gold to buy. and that all goes down the drain when we talk to the coin dealer. WHY? why should I trust him? he has givne be loads of helpful info, hes wise, he's been there before. I KNOW. he keeps telling me " you buy the saint, youll be grabbing your ankles wishing you didnt." WHY? your kdding me. why would I buy a bar or bullion coin that is solely based on 1 market, the gold market. and I buy the bars,bullion coins, I am limiting myself to the volitility of the market. I understand that buying a date gold coin is also risky in that it rises and falls with the gold market as well, but it also has the rarity and trades with the numismatic value as well. I feel like I'm the only one that gets this!

im so frustrated because I really wanted to buy date gold. WHY? because I think its a good investment. because I read that it does better in the long run. but who the $^#%^ knows anymore what the market will do. screw this.

i cant make up my mind. I feel like I cant make a decision. I dont want to buy a bar or bullion coins because I think they are more volatile, and my dealer disagrees. huh. hes trying to protect my wife and I from making a bad discision? hes trying to help? I dont feel like he is.

please someone back me up on this or tell me that I am wrong. someone please plead the case that date gold is NOT smart and I will beleive you. but searching the net on what to invest in, what kind of gold coins are safer or better investments, why are people telling me to get date gold and my dealer isn't?
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 Posted 03/28/2010  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add needgames4lyfe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Err, SDCOINGUY, most people have been suggesting date gold b/c of the two markets. Are you even reading the other posts? For example, Cownas above you.
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 Posted 03/28/2010  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i know. I just need someone to give me unbiased pros and cons to buying date gold
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