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jdheyne Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 07/10/2006 6:49 pm Hello. Just wondering what you thought the grade on this may be. Thanks! Jordan Edited by jdheyne 07/10/2006 6:51 pm Report this Post to the Staff

B12 Valued Member United States 151 Posts	Posted 07/10/2006 7:00 pm I'm sorry to burst your bubble but it looks like it has been cleaned which will bring down the grade.I think that because a coin that has that much wear should not be that clean and shiny but hey I could be wrong.So I'd say a net grade of fine. Edited by B12 07/10/2006 7:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jdheyne Pillar of the Community United States 772 Posts	Posted 07/10/2006 7:07 pm It does show a glare in that picture. But looking at the coin in hand, it does not really appear as shiny as pictured. Not saying it is definately not possible... it just does not appear to have been in person. Report this Post to the Staff
Irishraider Pillar of the Community United States 1454 Posts	Posted 07/10/2006 7:11 pm I agree with B12. This coin has been cleaned. Look at the P's, B's, R's, 8's, 9's, the In God We Trust motto, you can still see remnants of what was on the coin and/or what was used to clean the coin. It is too shiny for that much wear. I wouldn't say not to buy it just because it was cleaned but I wouldn't buy it if not admitted to being cleaned and only if at the lower price of an F-12 grade. Hope this helps. Report this Post to the Staff
fengk Pillar of the Community United States 986 Posts	Posted 07/10/2006 10:29 pm If it's not cleaned, I'd say VF-30 or VF-35. BTW, that's a beautiful coin that I won't get my hands on anytime soon. Edited by fengk 07/10/2006 10:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
ziggy29 Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 07/11/2006 09:52 am VF+ details, looks cleaned. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgan Fred Rest in Peace United States 2684 Posts	Posted 07/11/2006 3:10 pm Jordan, using my my PCGS reference collection, I would estimate VF-20, possibly F-15 due to the gouges on the reverse. (BTW, per usual, I haven't viewed the other responses to avoid influencing my opinion.) However, I'm also of the opinion this Morgan has been cleaned as evidenced by the dark/dirt inside many of the letters and numbers and the uniform non-luster on both sides. Especially with 1889-CCs, I have yet to see a raw 89CC Morgan which has not been cleaned or otherwise altered except for one very low grade (G-06) specimen. Because of their scarcity, far too many 89CC owners feel they have to spiff them up. For the same reason, most of the uncleaned specimens have already been slabbed. Also, because of the scarcity of 89CCs, if it were mine, I'd have this one net/detail-graded and slabbed by ANACS knowing that at least it would be preserved in a slab. If by chance it came back uncleaned from ANACS, it could always be crossed over to NGC or PCGS. Fred Report this Post to the Staff
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