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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Ok I know everyone has told me to be satisfied with the grades that are given, but with this one I just find it hard to be satisfied. I have a MS-68 that has more hits than this thing does and has about the same strike and luster. And I know hoe everyone feels about cleaning coins and how everyone feels that NCS is just doing the taboo with the coins, but I really think if they could get the ugly toning off of this thing it would probably upgrade one or even 2 points. Just let me know what you think because as you all know I am not worth a hoot at grading and I am just going from another coin that PCGS had graded MS-68 (this one is graded by NGC)  Image:  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bryan,
Is this coin currently in a holder? because it looks like there is a large finger print on the eagles breast on the reverse.The obverse looks MS65+
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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yes its in a NGC holder and thats just the way the toning looks, its very ugly. heres another picture of the toning  Edited by Bryan1315
07/12/2006 7:04 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Put it this way - there's no way to grade a coin of the condition that one seems to be in, from a pic. Once you reach MS64+, it requires multiple photos from varying light, taken by a real pro, to even attempt it. My gut says MS66 based on what I see. You should know my attotude towards cleaning, so I'll bet you know what I'd do with that coin. High grade 1880-S's aren't that hard to find.  Fingerprints do not go away easily, though, unless that one's on the holder. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
I think I am going to send it to NCS for review and tell them to only crack it out and do their mojo on it if they think it will upgrade, if they think it will stay the same grade they will leave it like it is
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Pillar of the Community
United States
954 Posts |
I don't believe they will guarantee any kind of grade. They will look at your coin and tell you if they would be able to sucessfully clean it, but they don't grade coins. You might want to take a few minutes and join the NGC coin forum. You can ask the people who work at NCS the questions you are asking here and get an answer straight from them.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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sure they will, I have seen on their forms where you mark only clean if its a possible upgrade. And they definately Grade coins there, thats how they net grade cleaned coins and other problem coins. I am a member of NGC forums and I am a paid member of collectors society and have sent coins through NCS before, even though they didn't clean the coins I sent in. It was just to see if they were problem coins and if they were to net grade them and if they werent to send to NGC for grading
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07/12/2006 8:32 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I'd say 66, maybe even 67. For a very common date like 1880-S, with a high population of very high-grade coins, I don't think they'd be shy about giving a grade that high.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
954 Posts |
quote:
Originally posted by Bryan1315
sure they will, I have seen on their forms where you mark only clean if its a possible upgrade. And they definately Grade coins there, thats how they net grade cleaned coins and other problem coins. I am a member of NGC forums and I am a paid member of collectors society and have sent coins through NCS before, even though they didn't clean the coins I sent in. It was just to see if they were problem coins and if they were to net grade them and if they werent to send to NGC for grading
I asked this question about the upgrade on the NCS forum. "If I have a coin in a NGC slab that I think will upgrade if it is conserved, will you look at the coin in question and make the decision to clean it only if it will upgrade afterwards?" Here is the response.... "Part of the evaluation process for a certified coin is not only to determine what conservation process will be performed on a particular coin but to detmermine if the currently stated grade will be maintained after the work. Coins do upgrade at times. Most coins remain the same grade but with increased eye appeal and leave more stable for long-term storage. An upgrade can not be determined in most cases. If you request that a coin only be conserved if it is to be upgraded, your coin will not be conserved. We can safely determine if the currently stated grade will remain but can not risk predictions of a future upgrade." Chris, NCS |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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ok I stand corrected then, I still think I am going to give it a try and see what comes back. I just sent my VAM-81 off to NGC and have another package at PCGS right now as well, might as well have one at NCS also |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
954 Posts |
Good luck!!! By the way, you have some killer coins |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
Thank You! I am in the middle of a Major rebuild here, that is why I have been selling so many coins recently
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Posted 07/12/2006 7:02 pm
