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1889 Morgan... Carbon Spots?

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 Posted 09/24/2006  10:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would like your opinion on this morgan.

1889-Morgan...-Carbon-Spots?

I'm also thinking whether these are carbon spots?
1889-Morgan...-Carbon-Spots?

Thank you for your opinion.
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 Posted 09/24/2006  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add B12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No higher than MS63 IMO.
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 Posted 09/24/2006  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Shatsi--

I would not want to state for certain that those are carbon spots, but I don't know what mold can grow on silver . In any instance, they tend to detract from the coin as do the marks on Liberty's face, field, and rim which look more like circulation marks than bag marks; the reverse is in much better condition than the obverse, but still with the spots. Unfortunately, TPGs give most of their grades from the obverse rather than the reverse. However, the high luster belies the circulation notion. The Morgan is weakly struck as is common with the Philadelphia mint in 1889, but otherwise I would not want to state that it is a circulated coin. Overall, I'd guess MS-60, maybe MS-61. It's probably not worth sending off to NCS for conservation, so you might consider experimenting by soaking it in olive oil to see if the spots would disappear. If it were mine, however, I'd just leave it alone and go shopping for another 89 unless I was in an experimentation mood.

Still, the bottom line is that there is no such thing as an ugly Morgan .

Fred
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 Posted 09/24/2006  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure those are carbon spots and if they are, their not coming off with any treatment I ever heard of. I have a couple Morgans with carbon spots that are graded PCGS MS64, so I'm not sure that would be a detracting factor when it comes to grading as that is the way they were minted.I would grade the coin MS61 probably MS62.Great luster.
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 Posted 09/24/2006  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I too think its carbon spots. Maybe I'll sell it and replace with another.
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 Posted 09/27/2006  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess MS61, MS62 at the most.
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