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This Cannot Be PMD

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 Posted 03/02/2011  12:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Wild Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this today, and from what I have learned this week, this is not "MAD" or an "off-strike".....so what could this be ?

I can see, maybe, some kind of broadstrike on the reverse, maybe ?

What do you think ?



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 Posted 03/02/2011  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, it does look slightly off-center cutting into the beads on the reverse. If it were misaligned, it would only be on one side.

However, the anomaly running through 1 CENT on the reverse, I'm not sure of.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting--definitely looks struck that way. I suspect it has something to do with the collar, but I'll wait for the experts on this.
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What would create the difference in thickness from top to bottom of the coin ?
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 Posted 03/02/2011  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wild Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could a planchet be distorted......

then struck......

with the next planchet being fed into position to get struck, be broadstruck....creating the damage on the first coin, creating a broadstrike on the second coin.....maybe
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 Posted 03/02/2011  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could say more with certainty. Here's a cent I have, which has been described as an "off-center broadstrike". It varies in thickness too.

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They do look similar.

What about the 1 CENT area? Struck-through?
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Yeah...I wondered if it was struck-through, or some of the planchet delaminated after the strike?
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 Posted 03/04/2011  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deerhunter2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Must be PMD as it effects the fields as well as the legend.......a counting machine is the most likely cause.
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The 1 cent area is Struck Through Grease?
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Too symetrical to be a strike through in my opinion....please look at the trace just below denticles....same as through legend....is mechanical to me......
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@Deerhunter2: Basement job, then?
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no counting machine smear
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If the coin has machine damage, here's something I don't understand. The coin has that expanded rim near 12:00, with that extra lip. If a machine did that post-strike, it would have to flatten the coin. But, isn't the rim thicker on that side? If the two dies came together out of alignment, with the dies further apart at the top than the bottom, metal would flow towards the top of the coin, and the bottom edge wouldn't be struck-up as well. Just a guess based on what I'm seeing. I bet Mike Diamond could tell us what happened.
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