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Persian Civic Copper , Medal Or What? What Is This?

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 Posted 05/13/2020  4:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinsman A to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there,

These are the information that I know about this piece,

18.7g,24mm,6mm thick.

on one side:

Fath Ali Shah (written)sitting on throne.

On the other side :
Mint of Mashad and names in circles are Mohammed,Ali,Fatima,Hassan,Hussain,Ali,Mohammed



It does not bear the word Fulus as these types of coins do.

Is it a coin or medal or what ?


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 Posted 05/14/2020  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add norantyki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a guess, maybe a coin weight?
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 Posted 05/14/2020  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has the same obverse as this gold coin:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125853.html

There might be a date under the name.
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05/14/2020 02:36 am
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Hi There,

Thanks for the inputs,

I just check under the name there is a little bit disfigured date 1250,which is the last year of his rule.

It is a heavy one at 18.5g the only coins closed to this weight are :

A2886 AR 2 riyals (18.42g), type D RRR
Struck only for presentation.

U2893 AR 2 riyals (18.42g), type E, struck only at Mashhad
1246, mint & date on both sides, names of the
Twelve Imams in the reverse margin RRR

"Stephen Album, Checklist of Islamic Coins, 3rd edition, PAGE 293"

Still a puzzle piece



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 Posted 05/14/2020  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is pretty close in size and weight to a falus https://en.numista.com/catalogue/in...at=y&ct=coin

I'm not an expert in Islamic coins but maybe it's a pattern? Or a bullion round?
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 Posted 05/14/2020  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinsman A to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes ,you are right there are some civic copper at that range of weight.

I checked my catalog "Bahrahm Alaedinin,Persian copper coins ,form Safavids to Qajars" ,but no similar coin or even close .

The only close one is the show one shown in your previous link of the gold coins.

It can be a pattern or a bullion round who knows

Thanks again for the help
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