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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***I've been considering buying some copper rounds. I figure the value will rise based on the data centers AI is going to need. Does anyone have an opinion on the subject? Yeah, nay or hold on to your denaros.
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Pillar of the Community
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I too would like to hear what others think about this. I have never bought copper rounds but I have searched Lincoln cents for years for varieties and have always separated the coppers and kept them. Some say it's not worth the effort but it's easy enough to do and I have several hundred pounds of them at a low cost in the long run.
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Quote: *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
I do not understand why a moderator moved this thread here, I feel the OP put it in the proper subforum originally. It was a question about buying copper and its future worth.... Took me a minute to find it after I replied to it. It was in the "Precious Metals" subforum before if you don't remember.
-makecents-
Edited by -makecents- 07/03/2026 11:43 pm
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Quote: I do not understand why a moderator moved this thread here I agree. On the subject; I have some copper rounds, 1, 5, and 10 ounce, and 1 pounders. A few 1 oz Nickel rounds, too. I bought mine years ago and because I enjoy their designs, plus I love the look of pristine copper in all of its forms. I wouldn't rule out buying more of them. But, the premiums are so high, I have never considered the money I spent to have a realistic chance of ever returning a profit.
Edited by Vector Ze 07/04/2026 01:49 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: hold on to your denaros I see individual rounds being sold and bought for the spot price of a pound of copper.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Quote: I do not understand why a moderator moved this thread here, Agreed that this thread best belongs in our PM subforum. I'll work to get this changed. There have been several discussions on stacking copper (not all of which were specific to cents), and my personal opinion that the weight and space required to stack copper make this much more difficult than metals that have higher intrinsic value.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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But, copper has a pleasant "heft" to it that higher priced metals lack, LOL The copper rounds are interesting, often artistic. But with their high premiums, not a reasonable way to stack copper.
I agree with -makecents- about stacking 95% Cu Cents, which I've been doing since 1982. Copper for $1.54 per pound at face value, while the current 'spot' on copper is over $5/pound. I've got most of mine sorted and rolled by Yr/Mm, and hoarded them while they were plentiful in circulation. I don't fancy moving them around much, but for that reason they're not as tempting a target for thieves, and they don't take up THAT much room. And there is an established market to buy and sell Cents for their bullion value, exactly as common silver and gold coins are traded, intact as 'bullion' coins.
Edited by Vector Ze 07/04/2026 1:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: The copper rounds are interesting, often artistic. But with their high premiums, not a reasonable way to stack copper.
I would agree. Like you said earlier though, there are some really cool copper rounds out there and I could just see buying some for this reason. Quote: I agree with -makecents- about stacking 95% Cu Cents, which I've been doing since 1982. Copper for $1.54 per pound at face value, while the current 'spot' on copper is over $5/pound. Yeah, you can't beat the price point.
-makecents-
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: There have been several discussions on stacking copper (not all of which were specific to cents), and my personal opinion that the weight and space required to stack copper make this much more difficult than metals that have higher intrinsic value. Exactly. Beyond collecting copper cents, maybe the OP should possibly look at stock? That way you don't have the massive collection of rounds to deal with.
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This post was originally in the 'General Discussion' area, I just got it moved to the Precious Metals where it belongs.
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Pillar of the Community
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This is not for me. As others have said, this is not likely to be a profitable way to invest in copper.
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Thx @dear!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you for getting it back where it originally was Spence, you da Man!
-makecents-
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Spence didn't move it, I did, and it was originally in the 'General Discussion' area (I check on the history of this topic to be sure)
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From a purely logical standpoint, "stacking copper" does not, well, stack up. Copper is 850 times more abundant on Earth than silver is, so logically, silver should be 850 times more expensive than copper. In truth, silver is only 233 times more expensive than copper at current prices. So either silver is ludicrously cheap, or copper is already rather over-valued.
Even so, at current prices, that means you need to stack 233 copper one-ounce rounds to house the equivalent value of one silver round. People "stack PMs" as a store of wealth. One of the key properties that a "store of wealth" needs to have is either portability (so you can take it with you wherever you go), or liquidity (so you can convert it into a more transportable form of wealth at short notice). And right now, copper has neither. In terms of portability, the mass/value ratio is simply too high - too much mass for too little value. In terms of liquidity, practically every single city and town in the Western World has one of those "we buy gold and silver" stores in it; but go into one of those stores with a wheelbarrowload of copper, and they'll just laugh at you.
In terms of future prices, there's a lot - a lot - of unmined copper sitting around, just waiting for the price of copper to bump up a little, to make those deposits economically viable. So even if there were a sudden surge in copper demand (and I'm not entirely sure that AI data centres are a likely cause of such a surge), there's plenty of capacity for expansion in the system.
TLDR: copper is simply too darn common.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I mean if they were sold at or around spot, maybe. But just about every time I see a 1oz copper round, it costs as much as a pound of copper (or more)! I just stick to hoarding copper pennies at face value. I do like some copper round designs but I'm not paying 50x spot price for them lol
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