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Forum Dad
 United States
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Please just don't play dumb and ask, "Why was my topic removed?" You know dam well why. You know the topic is volatile, and 99% of topics about it have not worked out, they derail almost immediately.
This forum has gotten by for a long time before this topic existed and will last a long time after. The same thing goes for individuals who are butthurt about it being not allowed. We got along before you, and we'll get along after. I hope no one leaves, but we just can't have it here. People have been killed over this divisiveness, and I'm not going to let it fester here and divide us.
Find a political forum for it if you have to talk about it.
Also, before anyone starts playing the free speech card.... This is a forum with rules, and like any other forum with rules, you don't have complete freedom of speech here.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21693 Posts |
Well said bobby, this forum is about coins, not politcs.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
25987 Posts |
Thank you bobby. Everyone, remember: this is bobby's sandbox, and bobby's ball. If you don't want to play by his rules, you're free to play elsewhere.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6638 Posts |
I think enforcing the rules of the venue is completely fair, as long as it is done consistently.
I also think that folks who want to have reasonable discussions about these subjects are well-intentioned but completely naive. I am forced to deal with a number of highly polarized blue and red people in my family, church, and social circles. As a practical, relatively non-polarized person, I simply recognize that you cannot hoist a pointy conductor during a storm and not get struck. A few of those people are like a balloon praying for a pin; they genuinely cannot wait for an excuse to climb up on their soapbox and get rolling.
I think it feels unfair to "reasonable" people when they are sternly warned not to hoist that metal stick. Their argument is that the unbalanced people causing the lightning discharge should be the parties penalized. Honestly, they're not entirely wrong about that. But the job of moderators—which is constantly misunderstood by the Internet—is not to serve as a justice system to punish the polarized people for derailing threads. The job of the moderators is to prevent unpleasant discharges, often by forbidding users from hoisting pointy metal sticks.
Under ideal circumstances where all people behave, should a respectful conversation on these subjects be possible? Sure. In an ideal world, I should be able to leave my gas cans in plain sight next to my shed overnight. In reality, those gas cans will be gone by morning, if not tonight, then right soon enough. Theft is indisputably wrong. But leaving your gas cans in plain view overnight is also poor judgment. Even if something isn't illegal or morally wrong, it can still be foolish. Bobby is the forum dad, and he gets to tell people not to be foolish, and make rules forbidding poor judgment. Ideal? No. But fair.
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Valued Member
United States
52 Posts |
Hurrah! As Barney Fife used to say, "Nip it in the bud."
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
9226 Posts |
I totally agree with this statement, thanks for enforcing it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Moderator
 United States
15613 Posts |
Full agreement here.
As a trusted Moderator I'll do my best to be fair - but we are not going to allow the CCF to be fractured by political divineness based on current events.
This is a valued forum about coins - let's keep it that way.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7300 Posts |
I'm a member on a paper forum that allowed political posts, it got so bad that a moderator was banned (he came back to spam the forum) and there were open threats against certain members. While there will always be some politics involved in coins (like ending the Lincoln Cent), its better to just leave the current political climate out of these threads. Honestly I don't envy the moderators, I used to be one and lately any political disagreements will blow up, its just easier without it.
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Forum Dad
  United States
24202 Posts |
Quote: there were open threats against certain members I had death threats over getting counterfeits taken down on ebay.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2978 Posts |
Thank you so much Bobby and Mods   totally on all above points, coins only, politics on who's right and who's wrong can please be taken elsewhere  We all have political opinions and some rather strong ones at that here at the  , but this is clearly not the forum to discuss those kinds of things (possible exceptions?)... Here on the great and awesome worldwide  , I am politically neutral as I don't go there as I enjoy everyone's presence and collections regardless of where one stands. I am a coin enthusiast who loves to share my hobby with others around here. Keep it up Bobby and Mods; you are all awesome 
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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