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Bedrock of the Community
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This came in a lot of international coins last week. Right away I could tell that something was not right, as the color was off and it just didn't feel right. UK 1 Farthing 1825 counterfeit. Diagnostics are 3.99 g, 21.7 mm diameter, and 1.4 mm thick vs. 4.72 g, 22 mm, and 1.65 mm for a genuine example. https://en.numista.com/6879
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Still a nice example for the black cabinet! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you, HondoB.
Do people collect counterfeits after they're proven to be fake?
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Quote: Do people collect counterfeits after they're proven to be fake? Yes, they may refer to it as their "black cabinet" collection.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Interesting find, HondoB.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you all! Quote: Still a nice example for the black cabinet! Yes, especially since it didn't cost me anything. Quote: Do people collect counterfeits after they're proven to be fake? Absolutely! But mainly CCCs - contemporary circulating counterfeits. I think that new-model Chinese fakes are of little interest to anyone in a numismatic sense.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Quote: Yes, especially since it didn't cost me anything.  Quote: Absolutely! But mainly CCCs - contemporary circulating counterfeits. I think that new-model Chinese fakes are of little interest to anyone in a numismatic sense. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you, jbuck and Hondo for your answers. I know very little about old coins and counterfeits in general.
My American Silver Eagle collection http://goccf.com/t/448125My random silver coin collection http://goccf.com/t/449270My MS-70 silver coin collection https://goccf.com/t/490829My dragon silver coin collection https://goccf.com/t/490859My silver Libertad collection https://goccf.com/t/491087
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2010 United Kingdom - 1 Penny 
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2014 United Kingdom - 2 Pence 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Here's an example of an interesting fake - a so-called "evasion copper" from the 1770s. There was a severe shortage of small change then and counterfeiting was rampant. The penalty for such was death, so counterfeiters made "tokens" that superficially resembled official half penny coins. However, various details, such as legends and portraits, were incorrect enough to allow for plausible deniability. Genuine: https://en.numista.com/5335Fake: https://en.numista.com/49959
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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2014 United Kingdom - 5 Pence 
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2021 United Kingdom - 10 Pence 
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2014 United Kingdom - 20 Pence 
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