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Are Privy Marks Raised Or Incuse?

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To my eye, that V75 mark appears to have the lettering as level with the coin's fields, produced by a sunken background.


this makes me think of the 1913 type ll indian head nickel, the 'five cents' denomination lettering on the lower reverse, raised up from a sunken area. I realize the difference between the two, one is a denomination ('five cents') and one is a privy (V75), but the same effect (re: the V75): raised lettering from a sunken area. I presume the surface of that 'five cents' lettering was about the same height as the other devices, a fix due to the type l lettering issue.


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"mintmark" denotes the place the coin was actually struck,


typically a raised from the field design element


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"privy mark" denotes a die-struck mintmark-like design element,


it can be a letter, number or device raised from the field or raised up from a sunken area


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and "counterstamp" is a punch applied to the coin post-mint.


incuse element somewhere in the field.

yeah?
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I am just wondering how low the bar really is for Temu fakes to start appearing for the valuable new coins.
I am sure it is lower than we realize.
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With the Temu-tants it's more of a ditch than a bar.
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Couldn't someone fashion a counterstamp that leaves a visibly indistinguishable mark a coin surface?

sure they could - but it would also most certainly damage the opposite side.
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With the Temu-tants it's more of a ditch than a bar.
Oh, snap!
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sure they could - but it would also most certainly damage the opposite side.
Not with skill and the correct material backing the other side.
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Excellent question, Brand. This thought never crossed my mind, but I could see some trying to cash in on the hype of these coins with a fake privy mark. I would think they would have to be very good at this manipulation but unfortunately, I'm sure there are those that are....

Added pic.

I have attempted to show where the damage may fall on the reverse if someone tried to make a privy mark. Not for sure I did this correctly but if not, I'm sure someone will let me know. See what you think.


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