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Banjax Valued Member Ireland 112 Posts	Posted 01/03/2007 2:40 pm thanks TKC and sap, I understand it now (kinda!) iv got some more coins that I need someone to identify. the bigger copper coin is difficult enough to see clearly in real life, nevermind my scanner pics but i'll give a shot. im led to believe that both coins are from the same country....? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16850 Posts	Posted 01/04/2007 04:28 am They are indeed; both of these are late Chinese Empire coins. The little one with the hole is a machine-struck 1 cash coin from Kwangtung province, undated, circa 1909-1911 (KM/Y 204), near Hong Kong. The larger one is a 10 cash (or 1 cent) coin, undated, circa 1903-1906 from Chekiang Province (KM/Y 49), on the east coast. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Banjax Valued Member Ireland 112 Posts	Posted 01/04/2007 1:48 pm thanks sap yet again. so I presume it was common for chinese coins to be undated in those years? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16850 Posts	Posted 01/05/2007 12:41 am At the time, central authority over coinage in China was all but non-existent - the provincial governments were left to do their own thing. Traditional cast coins (the familiar "cash" coins with the square hole) often don't have dates, while Western coins normally do. In the transition period, as methods of Western-style coin production infiltrated through China in the early 1900's, an awful lot of types and varieties of these coins were made as the mintmasters experimented with variations to the officially suggested designs. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Banjax Valued Member Ireland 112 Posts	Posted 01/05/2007 4:11 pm so my 10 cash coin is one of those 'experimented' types? nice to know! thanks again sap for your info. Report this Post to the Staff
EgCollector Pillar of the Community Egypt 3470 Posts	Posted 01/05/2007 4:24 pm quote: Originally posted by Sap The top three are indeed from Saddam's Iraq, 25 fils 1975, 50 fils 1981 and and 250 fils 1981. The date on the Israeli one (bottom right) is Jewish year (5)714, or 1954 AD. Technically, the bottom-left three are from different parts of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled most of the pre-WWI Middle East. The one on the left is hard to see, but looks most like one of the Turkish gold "cedid mahmudiye" coins (KM 645), accession date 1233, regnal year 28 = 1834 AD. The middle one is Egypt, 2 qirsh, accession date 1293, regnal year 33 = 1909 AD. The one of the right is Turkey, 20 para, accession date 1327, regnal year 4 = 1912 AD. I'm not familiar with the "cedid mahmudiye" coins, and Krause doesn't give a fineness for this coin, but I'm pretty sure that even debased gold wouldn't look that... brassy. It's probably a copy, but check the weight as accurately as you can, just in case. It should be somewhere in the 1.58 to 1.60 gram range. It's a US$40 coin if real. Report this Post to the Staff
EgCollector Pillar of the Community Egypt 3470 Posts	Posted 01/05/2007 4:28 pm quote: Originally posted by thekidcollector Bottom is Oman... TKC! Sultan Kaboos Saied 1400 50 Baisa Report this Post to the Staff
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