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1982 LMC Twisted Columns

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 Posted 01/11/2012  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wz1f to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Frank, well you know that once you said that it could be possible. You never know what is out there. Thanks for the input.
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Is the coin a zincoln? If it was PMD, there would be zinc showing through, like the chip above it is showing.

It looks like a damaged die.

And zinc doesn't tone to look like copper.

It is interesting to see how the columns look like twisted rod iron though. Was there a face lift (or twist) on the Memorial that we don't know of on a single die?

It would be helpful to know what year and MM the coin is too.

Thanks for posting it.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wz1f to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi wquinn, well its a 1982 P. it also has a slight doubling on the 2 as well.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a damaged die, it is just plain damaged- the reverse is covered with scrapes and scratches.
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Yes, the coin is quite banged up, but if some parts of damage show zinc and other parts with the same degree of damage don't show zinc, how can you say it is all PMD?

The coin is more of a curiosity than anything else though, since no matter what anyone decides what is wrong with it, it is still worth one cent.

Someone needs to take a sharp scalpel and cut the columns of a 1982 P cent to see how deep you have to go to see the zinc. My guess would be less than what is shown. I just don't have both in front of me now, otherwise I would do it.

All I'm saying is that the first and the biggest part of error collecting is analyzing how it is possible to get that error before drawing a conclusion. I'm very analytical and I enjoy looking at the error coins. I do search for them myself.

And it is nice to hear that in people's answers, so we can all learn from it.
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Just damage. Even though no zinc is showing means nothing, You can dent a zincoln and not have the zinc break through. There is nothing in the minting process that would cause this sort of effect. It clearly shows metal being pushed into the coin from some unknown cause.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wz1f to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi again wquinn, I will send you this penny if you would like to look at it . let me know your mail address. You can send me an email to my address if you would like. wz1f@myfairpoint.net
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No, that's okay. It isn't worth a stamp. It is just strange why it is on the columns like that and no damage right next to it. Just one very strangely damaged coin.

I guess when you highly magnify things (especially if too much), they can appear differently than what they really are. I have to remember that.

Thanks for the offer,
Wes
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 Posted 01/11/2012  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wz1f to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok Wes , thanks for all your help.
Lee
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