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Just got my Jovian today. Aside from what appears to be that dreaded disease, the coin is excellent. What do you guys think? BD? 
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Those smaller white dots around VOT, those under that left string,and the dots in his hair are light green as well in hand.
Edited by VisigothKing 02/10/2012 11:25 am
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Quote: What do you guys think? BD? Certainly looks like it, pitted, light green, flakey. Stick it into some distilled / de-ionised water. It hasn't done a lot of damage yet so with a bit of treatment the coin could be fine. What is in the wreath at 12 O clock?
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Thanks bobby. Really appreciate the help!
That's just a piece of fabric on the wreath.
Edited by VisigothKing 02/10/2012 11:39 am
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And how long should it stay in the distilled water?
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Nice coin...good you caught the BD early, hope it's cured! 
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Quote: And how long should it stay in the distilled water? Thats the $64,000 question! Some people soak them for months - essentially all your doing is diluting the harmful elements in the coin that cause the disease. After about 24 hours the green spots could just rub off but that does not mean that the soak has diluted the elements inside the coin enough to stop the process from re-occurring. Every coin is different and depending on how valuable and how little you want to damage the coin with practices like scraping at the affected areas should determine how long you leave it. I seem to have something soaking all the time these days!  Change the water every now and then as it helps and 'play it by ear' so to speak.
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Thanks DV! I've had one other coin with BD before, so I recognized it immediately on this one.
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So I figure mine shouldn't take too long soaking in distilled, since it appears to be just a mild case?
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I've read about collectors soaking for days, changing the distilled water each day. Then coating the coin with Renaissance Wax after the soaking. I have a coin coming in later that I suspect might have BD. We shall see once I get the coin.
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How obvious is renaissance wax when it's applied on a coin? Does it make it look really glossy or something? Probably a dumb question but I'm just curious.
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I've read a little bit on "curing" AEs of BD. Is there a *safe* chemical method to neutralize the chlorides/HCL that attacks the coin? Has anyone tried applying H2O + NaHCO3 (sodium bicarbonate) locally to the BD to neutralize HCL and put the chloride in solution--or is that a bad idea?  NaHCO3 + HCl --> NaCl (common salt) + H20 + CO2
Edited by DVCollector 02/10/2012 1:15 pm
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I wouldn't be of any help with that lol. I suck at chemistry.
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Quote: How obvious is renaissance wax when it's applied on a coin? Does it make it look really glossy or something? Probably a dumb question but I'm just curious. I've had various results coating coins with it. Some look slightly glossy, some look really glossy, a few you can't really tell. Most of the coins I coated with the wax darkened up for a short time and then later retaining much of the same color as it once did. I haven't coated all my coins. You might want to try using the wax on low value coins to see how it works out, if you're curious. Some people like the wax and others don't for various good reasons. It's up to you.
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On further reflection about using Renaissance Wax.
I asked various people about it, never receiving an answer as though it might have been a stupid question. Who knows, really. But anyways; this is what I learned about using it.
It's not a good idea to coat a coin that has a lot of dirt on it. If you want the dirt and the way it looks, might not be a good idea to use the wax. I haven't tried using the wax on a coin that has a desert patina.
Clean the coin well enough as you normally would, carefully too. Then apply the wax, maybe. If the coin is not done being cleaned, don't apply the wax because you may not be able to remove it easily. From what I've read, applying the wax could be permanent.
Which leads me to question how long this wax would hold up over the next 1000 years or so. Just like I would question any substance or plastic that has been applied to the coin, or surrounding the coin. Such as modern coin encapsulation slabs.
The wax doesn't come with instructions. At least my can did not. For a particular coin that I used it on, that had been lightly cleaned. I used a Q-Tip, applying the wax evenly, not using too much or not enough. I let it dry for about 15 minutes and then used a soft cotton cloth to "buff" the coin as though it was a car. Buffing in a slight circular motion, but gently.
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Hey, would anyone have a junker coin with BD for sale/trade? I want to experiment with some treatments.  I know this isn't the place for Buy/Sell/Trade--but it has a better chance being seen. My want list is here.
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