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1837 Austrian Ducat In Silver Not Gold?

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 Posted 02/15/2012  10:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay folks, I ran into an 1837 Austrian Ducat that is silver and not gold. (Gold appears to be the norm for these)

Has anyone ever heard of one of these?
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Yep, that's the one...and so far, the only one that I have seen listed like this. I have been looking for a coin that is from Transilvania and struck as such. This specimen, a commemorative, is as close as I can seem to get. It has been listed and re-listed a number of times...which makes me think it is way overpriced.

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 Posted 02/15/2012  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you find a Transylvania coin for your collection!
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Thanks DVCollector, you haven't run across one have you?

All the ones I have found so far are from the Poland area and don't say anything related to "Transylvania," which doesn't work for me.
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 Posted 02/15/2012  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I cant find anything else that actually says Transylvania on it. Now I want one too....
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Looks like someone done got bit by the bug!

If you find something, let me know. I'm about ready to give up on it.
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 Posted 02/15/2012  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heres one that says Transilva



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Taler 1672 Klausenburg
Resch 97

Meister&Sonntag Auktion 6, 1-2 Oct. 2008
Price realized: 3500 EUR



Little pricey though!
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 Posted 02/16/2012  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I might have to break open my piggy bank for that one...yikes!
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 Posted 09/16/2012  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just adding to this thread for future reference:
https://www.muenzauktion.com/saenn/...rr=EUR&psid=
1835 - 1848 Jeton ( 7 Kreuzer fein)
1837 Habsburg Siebenbürgen Transylvania
Grade: Feine Patina, fast Stempelglanz | Abbreviations
Catalog: Slg. Mont. 2570
3,3 g Silber
65,00 EUR
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Habsburg Siebenbürgen Ferdinand I.(V.), 1835 - 1848 Jeton = 10 Feinsilberkreuzer 1837 Winzige haarkratzer, Randkerbchen, f.Stgl.
Habsburg Siebenbürgen Jeton = 10 Feinsilberkreuzer 1837
Kwaliteit: Winzige haarkratzer, Randkerbchen, f.Stgl. | Afkortingen
Katalogus: Slg. Montenuovo 2570
3,3 g Silber
85,00 EUR
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 Posted 09/18/2012  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeromeL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver strikes of this issue are essentially patterns. There are several other examples of "Proofs in silver" of gold coins, but the practise was more common in the 18th century than the 19th. Although rare, they generally are less expensive than the circulation issues. I own a 1717 Swabische-Hall 2 ducat in silver, and it cost me £300 or so in mint state.
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Wow, someone that actually knows something about these. Thanks for sharing!
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Hi harrison2,
interesting coins I like Austrian coins a lot :-)

Transylvania is very interesting. Not just because of Dracula :-)))) It has been very important Hungary, Hapsburg monarchy and later Austro-Hungaria and today Romania. Some Transylvanian woywodas (dukes ) even become hungarian kings (John Zápolya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Z%C3%A1polya ).
And one of most important figures in South-eastern Europe in first mid 15th century John Hunyadi was voivode of Transylvania. He even had his coins struck with his name on one side and Serbian despot on other. According to hungarian numismatics these coins where struck for engagement of Despots granddaughter and Johns son Matija future king of Hungary.

Someone here mention austrian coin pattern if you guys have time maybe you can look at this coin I posted some time ago. Someone said to me its pattern and rare but I want second or even third opinion.

https://goccf.com/t/116306
My collection on Numista page:
7500 different coins and counting...
https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798
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