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End Of Circulating Coins?

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 Posted 02/25/2012  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZiggyZ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the idea that coins are going to disappear is particularly American, because we have stubbornly refused to change our money so that coins can actually buy something. Our coins are merely "change", remainders we don't want to round off. We don't spend them, we just save remainders until we have enough to trade in for real money. We are on a one way track toward a dollar coin (and hopefully a $2 coin at the same time) and when we get there people will get used to actually spending coins again.

As far as paper (or polymer) money, I'd bet everything I own it will still be around in 100 years (and not just because I won't be around to pay if I'm wrong). There's a huge difference between making debit transactions a common way to pay, and making them the only way to pay.
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 Posted 02/25/2012  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have tried to raised this point in the oz section about plastic and what it is and will do to collecting coins and got pretty much the same mixed reaction but I can't explain my self properly sometimes due to a brain injury so thanks very much for wording the question much better than I ever could n9jig, much apprectiated mate .

We have also talked about when we got rid of our 1 & 2 cent and notes and the problems and easy loss of especially the $2 coin as it is very small. Here is a pic of what I'm talking about see how small they are..and it doesn't take much, only five of these little suckers and you have $10 or a small hand full is about $50..I miss the old money as they're easier to keep track of

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In a way I think it's like our freedoms, in that if they've been taken away so your none the wiser and never know what you've been missing..if kids don't/can't have the opportunity and fun that we all have as kids finding and playing with money that has lead to bigger and better things with our collecting how can we expect our fun/hobby/passion to flurish things just aren't looking good..anyone got a time machine

After reading a lot of posts about what the mints are doing and how they're trying to change what we are collecting by bringing out so many new coins all the time but then trying to take them from circulation

I can't afford such nice coins all the time so I feel it's very quickly becoming an even richer mans hobby and I feel this is a real shame for the fun of collecting coins in the long run. But then it's all about the all mighty dollar these days

Sorry people, feeling a little down after reading another countries following us and the kiwi's but they've not long changed all their coinage and nothing under 10 cent as that's the smallest coin they have now. What happens in this new and very expensive world to the people like me and many many many others like me..makes you think

Just pray you don't ever end up like me, so be good to your selves and each other
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 Posted 02/26/2012  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the rate gasoline is going up I suspect all gas transactions will have to be in $100 bills.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I suspect all gas transactions will have to be in $100 bills.

No one can skim my Benjamins at the pump!
( actually, I use Jacksons and/or Grants right now, but at the rate we're going... )

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Next you say it is easier to use a debt/credit card.

* Unless your bank declines it and catches you off-guard.
That's how I got the last sale TV in stock at Best Buy one day: Cash never comes up "unable to process".
The guy in front of me had the last TV and a debit card. I had cash. Guess who ended up buying the TV?

* Until the magnetic strip on the back of your card wears out.
I can always tell when a never-cash payer is in front of me in line, their card won't read.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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* Unless your bank declines it and catches you off-guard.

And that is not to funny. It just happened to me. My bank monitors transactions and someone tried to use my card number without the card as is done on the internet all the time. So my bank froze that account. Now here I am in line at a store and POOF, card denied. Luckily I too had that mysterious stuff with me called cash.
Had to go to a branch bank and spend a lot of time voiding my card and getting a new numbered one. Between such things and all the identity thefts, Credit and Debit cards have a long way to go to be universal and fool proof.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just carl: That can be a very nasty situation to find yourself in, if you are relying on your card, and you happen to be travelling outside of your home country.

I try to pre pay as many of my expected expenxes as possible before leaving home.

When I am overseas, I split my money into three equal portions:
1. Cash
2. trevellers checks
3. debit card.

That is the order of priority in which I spend the money. I take double of the estimated budget, split in the above three ways. At the time of purchase you also have the flexibility on which of the three to draw against.

If you are going to be months out of your country, make pre arrangements to access money overseas with your bank, e.g., set up an account in a bank of your choice for yourself overseas, before you you travel. I have used such a facility to re charge my cash draw down in the priority mentioned above. This is useful if you are planning a working holiday.


I have never had a credit card, nor felt the need to have one.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see the end of cash anytime soon. Yes, electronic payments are becoming more popular but there is still a large cash only economy in the US.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I worry about the demise of using coins in transactions also. I wish they would stop making $1 bills and circulate the coins. Most people that I talk to in stores are very receptive of the dollar coins. They would be accepted much faster in the U.S. than the politicians realize. I also realize that worrying about declining use of coins gets nowhere. Coins (and currency) will be around for a long time, no matter what Visa wants us to believe. There are too many poor people and poor countries that rely on cash only and this will not change any time soon. And if you want to see $100 bills, just go to a casino. This is the preferred bill to use by the casinos.

One last comment about a cashless society. Do you remember the movie 'Demolition Man' when Sly was trying to get money or "credits" from the ATM? It was comical. A cashless society right now would never work.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think too many of us will always use cash to try and save a little where possible

Hope your coins work out for you, be interesting to see
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Yes, electronic payments are becoming more popular but there is still a large cash only economy in the US.


Where do you see a "large cash only economy"? Just about everywhere I go, they take plastic. The only places that take cash only are, small Mom and Pop businesses, flea markets, ball games from vendors, etc. And when you compare to all the places that take them, it is very tiny. Even McDonald's and movie theaters take plastic now.


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I think too many of us will always use cash to try and save a little where possible


How does using cash save anything?

I get cash back on my credit card, so it makes me money.

Most people can't spend on a budget. Hence they get into debt very fast using plastic.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shnug to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There once was a time in American history where the currency had such power that denominations such as the half-penny and 3-cent piece were actually relevant. Unfortunately, over the past 100 years *cough END THE FED cough* the dollar has lost about 99% of its value, so coins like the penny are becoming much less relevant. I too fear that the penny will be ultimately phased out of existence.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How does using cash save anything?

I get cash back on my credit card, so it makes me money.

Obviously stated by someone that does not attend flea markets, shows such as gun, knife, coin, electronics, etc. Also, garage/yard/estate sales. And some stores will tell you if you use cash, they will give you a % off the prices.
Impossible to haggle a price when using anything except cash. Actually I've haggled down prices even in department stores by not using a card, only cash.
My Son is a fantastic opposition to cash though. He owns his own buisness and uses credit/debit cards for everything possible. He says for documentation, it's the only way to go. Also, a small percent of those transactions get lost so sometimes things are free with plastic.
Don't know if anyone has read about the latest scam with credit cards that have the RF chip built in. Scanners can be purchased that can read such cards even in a waller.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add charlesjcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hear a lot of talk about getting rid of the penny and the nickel. The economic impact of that would be tremendous. Everyone from the farmer to the gas stations will be rounding up there prices which will drive the already out of control inflation even more crazy. you may think hey its just a couple cents but it will kill over time.
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Indeed there is many pros and cons regarding currency. The fact that we are an ever evolving species means at some point perhaps we will come up a different system than money. Fact is though, it's been around since the beginning of time. Have pennies obsolete and too costly to make? probably. Can we eliminate the need for pennies? probably. But all coinage? I doubt it. The very foundation of fractional currency demands the inclusion of all decimals for it to work properly. Barring some unforseen mathematical equation of a tax rate that always comes up with a whole number, it would seem as though the current system will remain the way it is.
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I hear a lot of talk about getting rid of the penny and the nickel. The economic impact of that would be tremendous. Everyone from the farmer to the gas stations will be rounding up there prices which will drive the already out of control inflation even more crazy. you may think hey its just a couple cents but it will kill over time.
Untrue and uninformed.

Rounding goes both ways, to the nearest not the highest. We already round to the nearest cent when calculating sales tax.

I have mentioned this many times before, but a lot of places around me round totals on cash transactions down since they save money by not having to pay the surcharge on electronic transactions. One deli near me rounds down to the nearest dollar when I pay cash.

There is no need to shift the decimal point either. Just eliminate the cent and nickel, and bring on the dollar coin. The dime will be the new cent, the dollar coin the new dime, and the ten dollar note will be the new one dollar bill. It would also eliminate the need to have a "new cent" and "new dollar" with the new values (and eliminate the finite period for people to exchange their old money for the new money).
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