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I Need Help With 1920 Wheat 150-55 Die Rotation?better Pics

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 Posted 03/13/2012  8:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jsparks6523 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have found this and haven't found any info on it at all. I did find a Die rotation site that has some at 110* but none any more then this. This is in very good or better shape (I think)and I wonder if its valuable or not?

It's definitely a single coin I did look for it to be a fake.

It does have a gouge in the head and is rubbed on the reverse.
I will see if I can get better pics with a camera this evening I know my phone is a little sketchy. Sorry but thanks to all whose posted.
It's definitely 150-170* off not 20*. I am a newbie but I've learned enough to know how it should look.

In case a few of you are serious. I've flipped 6-8000 pennies in the last week looking for die rotation as I loop them for other errors. The pic is showing the correct orientation. Thanks for your input


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 Posted 03/14/2012  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add phazon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like 170 degree rotated? dang nice find.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add phazon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Make sure its not 2 coins glued together something that is bothering me is that big ol dent in it.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mumps? LOL
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 Posted 03/14/2012  09:41 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
something is weird about the obverse design. I'd really like better pics with the coin taken out of the 2X2.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The question is, how was the coin flipped? Is it 160 degrees rotated or just 20 degrees?

Looks more like a bite taken from the back of his head.

I can't see any dent on the reverse poking out though. The photos are too blurry to tell.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timsumrall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please note that the reverse is naturaly rotated 180 from the obverse. If your orientation of the flip is correct, your coin is only a little rotated and not enough to bring a premium.
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 Posted 03/16/2012  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based off your mirrored pic on the other thread, it appears with the natural head/toe orientation that it's rotated about 130 degrees on the reverse?!? 90 degrees is tough enough to find but that is crazy!
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 Posted 03/16/2012  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's definitely a large enough rotation to carry a premium, even though rotation errors were more common back then (they're very rare nowadays). It doesn't seem like there are a ton of rotated die collectors though, so I have no idea what it would be worth.
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 Posted 03/16/2012  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add War Nickel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The holder is flipped over vertically, not left to right...
Therefore this coin has nearly "medal alignment" like Canadian coins, not fliped over alignment like US coins...

that makes these pics a little hard to understand if you don't know that...the mirror photo should be posted in this thread to clear this up...
From what I can see I disagree with some comments here.
I looked at the mirrored coin picture in the other thread and that coin is definitely NOT " a little " out of alignment.

The "One Cent" on the reverse is at about 100° if you consider the head on the obverse is at 90°. ( assuming 0°is on positive x axis and a positive angle is rotated counter clockwise)..



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 Posted 03/16/2012  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jsparks6523, I added your photo from the other thread to your original post in this one.

In case anyone missed it...

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OK, good the photo is here now...notice the one cent is nearly in the same angular position and Lincoln's hair...hence nearly-medal alignment ±10°.
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Oh, the mirror only flips things left-to-right, not vertical to inverted. Refracting telescopes do that...this is why the writing is backwards, but still in the correct position top-to-bottom...

However, how does the mirror know how to do this? I guess they program it in at the mirror factory....:)
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OK, good the photo is here now...notice the one cent is nearly in the same angular position and Lincoln's hair...hence nearly-medal alignment ±10°.

This is right about the coin!


By the way, GREAT idea to illustrate the rotation in putting it beside a chunk or mirror like that.
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 Posted 03/16/2012  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mirrors must have been invented by the Thermos people (how do they know whether to keep it hot or cold?)
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 Posted 03/16/2012  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jbuck, I would have missed it, that's a good thing to remember.
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