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Ebay Roll Scam - How Is This Guy Faking The Wrapper?

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 Posted 04/01/2012  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenscott to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Markn984,

Good to know.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Us...master%21%21

Check his feed back through toolhaus.............
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 Posted 04/04/2012  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I did, ebay agreed, and the seller's auctions are down.

Glad to hear you reported it and that ebay took it down.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an FYI, you don't need toolhaus any more, just click on the negative counts on eBay.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The User ID is now gone, so ebay must have given him the boot. Glad to see they are actually doing something about these types of bad sellers.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's still selling on eBay What a nice guy--all those "original bank rolls"--and never picking out the key coins for himself.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I see it now. The link in the previous post didn't work then.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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He's still selling on ebay What a nice guy--all those "original bank rolls"--and never picking out the key coins for himself.


Ugh. So I guess my report messed up his mojo for all of a day.
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 Posted 04/05/2012  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Correct me if I am wrong...but weren't the first 1-20 years of cents rolled in $0.25 rolls and not $0.50?


I have seen occasional half-roll wrappers, but even as a kid, cent rolls were 50 coins.


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Second....seems a little too perfect even 'sitting in a vault for 20+ years' to me.


"Too good to be true" usually is.
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 Posted 04/05/2012  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even a mega-dealer, confronted with a bunch of cent rolls apparently from California with au/bu vdb cents on the ends is at least gonna spot check a few rolls. Who would risk giving up a potential $100,000 roll for chump change, just for fun?
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 Posted 04/05/2012  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What the seller claims is that it is an "AN ORIGINAL BANK WRAPPED ROLL FROM THE "FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO".


The FRB SF didn't exist when those nice shiny coins came out.

By the time it opened, there would have been a half billion LWC made, allowing a 1:20 chance of a VDB, or a 1:1000 of an SVDB, yet here are bunches of rolls with VDBs on both ends!?

A roll with a nice vdb on one end and a nice 14p on the other would at least be believable.
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 Posted 04/06/2012  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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By the time it opened, there would have been a half billion LWC made, allowing a 1:20 chance of a VDB, or a 1:1000 of an SVDB, yet here are bunches of rolls with VDBs on both ends!?


His rolls were made in the 1950's, based on his feedback (i.e. all rolls seem to have 1950's LWC's in them). That's why I used 1950's numbers when I did the math earlier in this thread

I reported him again, and ebay yanked him again. We'll see if he relists.

However, I've only been reporting the two VDB rolls. He has all sorts of other "original" rolls with interesting coins on the end.
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However, I've only been reporting the two VDB rolls. He has all sorts of other "original" rolls with interesting coins on the end.


Which anyone but a rank beginner can tell are phony, which should tell you how interested ebay is in stopping this particular scam.
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 Posted 04/13/2012  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Anyone who is foolish enough to buy a roll from someone like this guy thinking something valuable is in there deserves to be swindled. However It's just too bad there are people out there preying on other's greed and stupidity.

There are a lot of ebayers like that selling "unsearched" or "untouched" rolls and wondering aloud if there's something valuable in there. I can't believe some fall for that.



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