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 Posted 07/19/2012  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No argument there, Ed!
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 Posted 07/20/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, we don't argue around here... we DISCUSS!

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 Posted 07/25/2012  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I read last night where ONE Fed Pres said that they were going to discuss QE3 this meeting because it MAY be needed, but it was just that a discussion on possible stratagies.

At lunch I see gold soaring upwards and reading "QE3 NEXT WEEK!!"

Honestly do these people even live in the same world we do? This reliance on QE3 is approaching a pathological level. It may happen, it may not. But to bet the farm on rumors of possibilities is absurd.

How many months or years will it take before they realize that the time for QE3 is passed? ( Not saying it is now. I am saying that it seems such a fixation that it won't go away absent positive statements by the Fed.....ever)
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 Posted 07/26/2012  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I read last night where ONE Fed Pres said that they were going to discuss QE3 this meeting because it MAY be needed, but it was just that a discussion on possible stratagies.

My question for them would be, "How many times are you gonna try this before you finally realize that it is not working?".


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Honestly do these people even live in the same world we do?

No, JKM, I don't think that they do. They remind me of someone who plays chess and thinks that because of that they know all about war. They know a lot about theory but not a thing about practice. :-/

QE is being built into our expectations of how an economy is jump-started. The bad news is that it is not working and has not worked at any time during the 2008-2012 recession / depression. Because it has not worked, a rational person would try something other than QE to see if that would work instead. An irrational person will do the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. This is quite typical behavior for those who live in a world of theory. Somehow, they are able to maintain an attitude that theory is superior to reality, even when we have a great deal of proof to the contrary.
So... how many QEs will the next one make?
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 Posted 07/26/2012  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get an email that reports the US Mint sales for the month and most all types of silver products are down from last year. I think has a lot to do with silver under $28 for quite sometime with no real reductions in prices. I surely have held off even for my 2012 silver proof sets. Guess wishful thinking for lower price. Also waiting on the ATB to see if they decrease again
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There's probably something to that, Angel. Something else could be that most people simply have less disposable income these days and are buying food, utilities, and rent with the money that they do have. :-/
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I saw on FOX that the recession is taking so long because people don't have any disposable income

Then they said that no one had disposable income because the Corporations are not hiring and have lowered wages across the board, while maintaining profitability.

Then they said Corporations are not hiring because no one is buying.

Hasn't ANYONE of these people ever heard of Henry Ford and his extremely profitable economic policies?
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 Posted 07/27/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
corporations are holding their cash reserves because of UNCERTAINTY. why would they hire ANYONE when cost of goods, taxes, healthcare, cost SO MUCH. a business has to maintain its profitability. Not to sound crass or insensitive to those unemployed, but they shouldnt be angry at the businesses, its failed economic policy. a business has to do what business were made to do, make money and supply goods, Not employ people. so as the disposable income drops off the map, it is true that with less or no demand, business must adapt to keep with their bottom line...
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 Posted 07/27/2012  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And a lot of the uncertainty has to do with O care and all the costs there
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 Posted 07/27/2012  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thread has officially become too big to fail.
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 Posted 07/27/2012  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it has I guess unless silver starts an upward trend again!
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 Posted 07/28/2012  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
do you think silver will go down in price when the euro collapses?
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 Posted 07/28/2012  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCoinBoi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think Silver would go up Greenprint.
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why not go down as wouldn't the purchasing power of the USD go up as the Euro disintegrates?
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So far, the current pattern of behavior has been consistent: economic panic in the Eruo zone pushes the US dollar higher. A stronger US dollar tends to drive PM prices down, at least in the near term.

This is all a knee-jerk perception game. There's been some speculation here on this forum that we'll soon see physical silver (and gold) prices move independent of the gyrations of the "paper" PM market.
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