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Gina's boyfriend describes to his buddies the wondrous tales of "Moe145 and his 5x5 brain-teasers" ...

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 Posted 05/12/2012  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've got it, but I have to go post 4 more messages to get to 50!
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 Posted 05/12/2012  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, here it is:

"Genius without education is like silver in the mine"

Benjamin Franklin
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Stevex6, you had the right code key, except column 3 row 1 is C or K. (That's where the K goes - otherwise it would be "...lice silver in the mine")
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well done, Lars ... well done

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Quote:
"Genius without education is like silver in the mine"

Benjamin Franklin



Ladies & Gentlemen...We have a WINNER!!!!!




Larsdog!! A mental talent well-beyond mortal men! Nice job!!

Please PM me and will get your Bicentennial Ike off to you ASAP! Well played!!

(Now, can anyone decipher all the clues?)
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Moe => Gina's boyfriend said that he'll fill ya in on the details, if you meet him tomorrow at the kelp-bed ...


Congrats Lars ... "amazing"

=> I still had Marsha Brady somewhere in the mix!!?

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well done, Lars ... well done


Steve, it was really you that solved the code. I tried omitting the Q and then the Z and it didn't work. Omitting the K made it work, and when I had "lice" and needed "like" I knew the C and K shared a space. How did you know the K was "missing"? I couldn't figure out CJJ III and UFC 36 sent me looking to make the quote "Money to burn" from "When World's Collide" fit. That was why I asked if it was a movie quote.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtiywe3Y_XE


Lars ... I was merely a by-stander

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(Now, can anyone decipher all the clues?)


1. CJJ III - all I can figure is that CJJ is a clue that the code gets weird around the letters C and J and that the letters are intended to represent the roman numeral 3.

2. '25 quarter - there are 25 characters in the code.

3. There are myths that have/are circulated/circulating concerning this person... - I didn't know if this referred to old Benjamin himself or the '48 to '63 half dollars!

4. the arm = the leg - simply that the length of the word is all that's important

5. One arm = six abs - this one was tricky until you realize one and six are both THREE letters, so in this case one = six. Both sides equate to 3,3.

6. Some research into the Achived Contests from Moe145 may give you enormous insight into the rather limited intellectual bag of tricks that devised this code. - I must admit that I ignored this clue.

7. UFC '36 - This one really threw me off track. I was convinced that the quote was from "When Worlds Collide" and there were several quotes about "Money to Burn" and time is more valuable than money, etc. I spent a lot of time chasing this rabbit down the wrong hole. Even now that I know the answer I can't fathom what it has to do with anything!

7 (there were 2 hint 7). chest=%$#@! - the letters don't matter - just the number of characters.

8. Ok, what if I tell you, 2,2 = G? This gave a BIG clue as to the code. I did row/column, steve did column/row, but obviously 2,2 is the letter G. But how to determine the numbers? I still didn't know it was the number of letters in the words. I was still looking for a "trigger" letter.

9. Ok. Try this! - The 5 x 5 grid of Indian cents made it clear that 2,2 (above) referred to row 2, column 2 (or the other way around) of a 5x5 table.

10. 3,2 = H - that tells us the letters are in alpha order and A to H are sequential. The missing letter is to be determined.

11. If 2,2 = G, and 3,2 = H, whatever could I be? And why did I replay Hint #2 in Hint #9 (i.e., what is similiar and what is different in the two hints? And since Hint #9 has more information than Hint #2, what was added, and what could it mean?) - this reinforces the notion that the table is in alpha order and we now know it's intact through letter I. Hint 2 told was there were 25 characters. Hint 9 told use they are places in a 5x5 grid.

12. This quote is 9 words long. - This one threw me for a loop since there were 11 lines in the coded message. But then I realized the first two, or more likely the last two, were the name of the person quoted.

13. What if this 5 x 5 grid had letters in them? - This verifies that there are letters in the grid, but how to determine the grid coordinates.

14. Letters are not used as letters. Words mean nothing. Only space matters. - This solved the puzzle,almost. The number of letters in the first word was the first part of the grid coordinate and the number of letters in the second word was the second part of the grid coordinate to determine an uncoded letter. It took 2 words to make 1 letter. Easy enough, but the first line translates as GEMIUS with the Q missing and GEMITR with the Z missing. Obviously something is amiss. I tried the last two lines hoping to figure out the author. I got BENJALIM for a first name and it seemed like it HAD to be BENJAMIN. Then I saw that Steve left out the K. Why did he leave out the K? The code had to be good through J and it was broken at L, so K it was. Everything was perfect until line 5. I got "LICE" because 3,1 - C. Did the code author mean 1,3? That would be K. Then I thought 1,3 was K or L and there was an error in the coded message but decided it made just as much sense to have C and K share a spot.
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WOW! That last post didn't count as a "quality" post!
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 Posted 05/12/2012  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Q.E.D.

... violent golf-clapping for Lars!!!

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Nice work. I had the grid because it was used in the archived posts. Pther than that I was way off track
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Lars! Well done! Congratulations
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I'm sorry Lars, but I can't take a share of your lime-light ... Dude, you rock!!

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=> that'll do pig ... that'll do!!
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