Collectors Of French Coins?

Maudry you got a very good collection of French coins, hope you got good insurance on them? Cause in the last years book "Infos Monnaie 21" they will be quiet pricey to replace, just the one 5 Franc piece is going for around the € 120.00 mark in that condition.

Hi there Maudry

You must try to get it it has all the values in there, of all the French coins , gold , silver, copper and Proof sets, all with good detail.

I would advise you to try and get a copy, for € 7.50 it is a steal! it is my French coin Bible!!!!! ;~)))

Try this link
http://www.e-monnaies.fr/boutique/c...ications.php

Hello
Like a french collector coins, I believe this is the best site to identify and to dream

"Le Franc, La collection ideale" : http://www.lefranc.net/idealf5.html

The french coins are clasified normally by artist engravers, as type Roty or type Morlon.

And, with the mint marks and engraver general's marks, we have a many coins to collect.

Well, I have some little writing over french type coins, like type Morlon or type Lindauer for know all varieties. In .pdf file and in SPANISH and free, of course. If any people are interested, I can send by mail.

Regards Joan

Hi Maudry,

I wasn't able to see your coin webpage or reference where your coins are displayed.

I tried to buy an 1844-A in similar condition to your 1845-A. In this grade, these are worth a lot more than E. 120, maybe more like E. 450.

Sorry about the reference to displays: I included a link to some of my Louis Phillipe 5F's but it was deleted as I dont have 50 posts yet.

I'm familiar with the type I L. Phillipe of 1830 & 31 but not of the 2nd stylistic change. When did it occur?

I almost bought a 5F of the quality of the 1845A you illustrated, however when I called the people back it was sold. I did buy from them a "supposedly uncirculated" (slabbed NGC-63) 5F 1855-A (bare head type) of Nap III. However when I received it the coin was horribly overgraded, despite being slabbed, thus I returned it.

I don't even know how to insert pictures.

I started collecting in 1973 and this was before the US slabbing day as well as numerical grading.

Slabs are a way of promoting coins so certain dealers can now sell coins to investors who do not have the time to learn grading. Thus an investor will say I want 100.000 euros into high grade French ecu's and Louis d'ors and he can be sure of having his order filled.

As you may surmise slabbing makes it very difficult for normal collectors to collect better things: even ones with a good coin budget such as myself.

For example I spent 20 years trying to find a decent unc US silver dollar over 100 years old (Lib Seated or earlier). I gave up on US coins when I discovered this would cost me around 20.000 even though these coins were made 50 years at 4 different mints.

Slabbing doesn't work any better for US coins than for French or world coins. Last year I bought a low end unc (MS-61 or 62) USA silver dollar I think it was 1841. The coin was clearly BOTH circulated and cleaned. Fortunately I was able to return it. An ms60 (thru 62) is worth $1900, a ms-63 is $4750 an ms-64 and here is where they usually become "truely unc and attractive" is $13500. A ms-65 or a choice unc is $47500: and note this is a common date!!! Thus dealers are always cleaning, dipping, and reslabbing these poor USA Seated dollars in the hopes that one day, just by chance, they may make it to the next higher number. Unless you get something in MS-64 it can be junk -- but not necessarily.

Thus I moved into world coins and then into French as I think they tell a really nice story. However now world coins are becoming slabbed to an increasing extent here. See below for my constitutional ecu: I know it's a common coin -sorry!



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Hi Maudry,

The coin photographed is a Republic of Central America 2 escudos, 1825 (1st yr of issue). Just by coincidence it was bought from a Belgian company.

Overgraded: yes this is what I am hoping/waiting for. In some instances the overgrading gets so bad it is ridiculos. However things still keep on going on. I think these people who are buying this stuff are printing their own money: they seem not to care what they spend.