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Code Breaker Contest Number 5!!

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Official Hint # 6:



K$#HB

32LE#

5%VZ



is the first word of the quote.


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How many letters are in the first word?
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I think my brain is melting
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Quote:
How many letters are in the first word?



Exactly!
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Quote:

I think my brain is melting


I seem to agree with you.

See the pile of water under the emote? Thats my brain.
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Is there a key to determine word length?
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How are numbers and symbols supposed to be converted into letters?
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Note: Random guesses, without any explanation of the encoding method, don't fulfill the requirements of this "Code Breaking Contest". The purpose of this contest is to solve the code.


I'm going to go ahead and post this before someone else beats me to it:

"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid" - [D]wight D. Eisenhower
I don't know if the coded phrase was missing the "D" for Dwight or if Moe was being sneaky by having the d that ends timid also start Dwight! I don't see how one determines word length (I've tried several possibilities to no avail), but if you treat ALL numbers and special characters as weeds (nod to actress) and only decode the letters you get the phrase above (see chart below). I was going to wait until Moe answered the previous question to see if there even IS a way to determine the word break boundaries, but that Franklin was looking too good, and he did say no random guesses without ANY explanation. If there is a way to determine word length this is at least SOME explanation. If not, this is the WHOLE explanation.

A = F
B = S
C = ?
D = C
E = O
F = K
G = U
H = I
I = ?
J = M
K = H
L = T
M = ?
N = D
O = A
P = G
Q = L
R = ?
S = E
T = ?
U = ?
V = R
W = N
X = W
Y = ?
Z = Y
Edited by larsdog
07/05/2012 2:24 pm
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 Posted 07/05/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job. Larsdog . You..... you shattered my dreams of holding that Franklin. Lol jk. Great Job anyway!
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Thanks!

I did notice that the number "32" was in every seven character word and was only in one other place, the ten character word Eisenhower. I am also curious if the sharing of the "d" in timid with the "d" in Dwight was intentional and was in some way supposed to show me how to determine the length of the words from the beginning for the quote but count backwards from the end for the name. I tried looking for clues embedded in the words and tried it by stripping out the weeds and processing them separately. I tried looking at only symbols, only numbers, only pairs of numbers, only numbers preceding letters, etc., but then maybe those weeds are just weeds!

I tried studying the portion "to the weak or the" to look for embedded clues.

LE37&
LKS56
XS%$OF3#
EV
LKS67
N3X#H

The word "TO" could be 3#EV, but for the two "THE"s there is a letter immediately before them from the previous word, so if the clue is embedded, it would have to be the numbers at the end. This section convinced me the word length key was probably not embedded in the words themselves so I looked at the weeds separate from the words to hopefully find a pattern. If it's there, I couldn't find it.
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Quote:
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid" - [D]wight D. Eisenhower


YES!! Absolutely correct!! Larsdog is the decoding KING!

Larsdog!! You the winner!




Fantastic job, Larsdog!!!


PM me your address and your beautiful MS65 1963 Franklin will be on the way!




and now...



I think most of the clues were correctly identified.





But, not all....

Can anyone correctly identify all the Hints?

(Tzarmarko! C'mon you know this better than anyone else!)


(There could be another Franklin involved..)


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good work.

my brain is still melting by the way.
I always enjoy these codebreakers.
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Can anyone correctly identify all the Hints?


Hint #1 - Mary Louise Parker plays a role in the film "Howl" that takes place during the Eisenhower presidency

Hint #2 - # of words in quote

Hint #3 - I am guessing referring to Pentagon Papers which exposed involvement in southeast Asia during Eisenhower's presidency?

Hint #4 - The patch is the symbol for the Supreme Allied Commander, Eisenhower was 1st I believe

Hint #5 - Not all symbols, numbers and letters in the encoded quote are of equal value - see explanation below

Hint #6 - First word of quote K$#HB 32LE# 5%VZ, from the deciphered code, the symbols and numbers seem to be fillers with no value.

Good job larsdog...that was not easy!


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Darn it! You beat me to it . However you are incorrect for #1.

Mary Louise Parker is more significant here because of her role in weeds which shows that some of the parts of the message are weeds or are not needed.

Am I right now?!?!?!
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 Posted 07/05/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like your explanation for hint #1 MUCH MUCH better....lol
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