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Coins of Mars/Ares
1) A maximum of two (2) coins per Member. 2) Can be a depiction of either Ares or Mars. Any aspects of Mars allowed including portrait types. 3) Coins of Virtus are NOT allowed. 4) Voting: vote for 3 coins in order of preference, Gold (4pts), Silver (2pts), Bronze (1pt). 5) Host announces the winner. Winner chooses next Smackdown Subject and is host. 6) You do not have to enter a coin to vote but please do try to enter something. 7) Base your votes on an criteria you like, eye appeal, rarity, quality, anything you like. 8) Final decision if two coins have the same score and the same number of golds will be the hosts choice. 9) Enjoy.
Entries Begin Immediately and Submission Ends @ 21:00hrs BST UK, WEDNESDAY 15th AUGUST Voting will last 1 day. Ending at 21:00hrs THURSDAY 16th AUGUST.
Martin Edited by maridvnvm 08/11/2012 08:03 am
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Well, considering my user name you would think I would have better representation in this area! Not so. My only two mars coins are quite average at best. Lucius Verus (A.D. 161-169) AR Denarius, A.D. 164, Rome, 17.8mm, 3.25g, 0°, RIC III, 516. Obv: L VERVS AVG ARMENIACVS. Laureate head right. Rev: TR P IIII IMP II COS II. Mars standing right, holding spear and resting hand on shield.  Caracalla (as Caesar) AR Denarius, AD 196-198, Rome, 17.4mm, 2.34g, 0°, RIC IVi 11. Obv: M AVR ANTON CAES PONTIF. Bare head, draped bust right. Rev: MARTI VLTORI. Mars advancing right with spear and trophy. 
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I'm out on this one, don't have any coins depicting Mars.
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My sole entry. Great subject. Should see some interesting coins. Time of Pharnabazos and Datames, ca 379-373 BC AR 22mm 9.75g Asia Minor,Greek Persia, Kilikia (Cilicia) City of Tarsus (Tarsos) Obv. 3/4 Facing Head of Arethusa Rev. Bust of ARES / MARS right,wearing Attic Helmet. Reference: Sear-5640 BMC29 
Edited by Ancientnoob 08/11/2012 8:51 pm
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I dont have much to choose from either unfortunately, I do have these two though: #1 - Tacitus - Reverse shows the Emperor receiving a globus from Mars. #2 - Trebonianus Gallus with a MARTI PACIFERO reverse.
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I think Martin is trying to be tricky here: "3) Coins of Virtus are NOT allowed." There has been quite a bit of discussion in some cases whether a figure shown is Mars or Virtus. Sometimes the matter is settled by a legend. Sometimes the figure is shown without clothing and Virtus never appears undressed. That leaves coins with no legend help and a dressed figure that have been called both ways according to whose book you read. There are also coins showing soldiers that could be mistaken for Mars as well so IMHO the only 'safe' Mars/Ares coins have supporting legends or missing clothing. I'll try to avoid that problem by offering one with legend and one unlabeled nude. While I'm into variety, I'll go one Ares and one Mars, one bronze and one silver and one in my specialty and one I don't know much about (guess which).  Ares appears on the reverse of this Provincial of Maximinus from Anchialus, Thrace. The coin is 29mm diameter and has a nice green patina so I don't know if it is brass or copper. I do not have the catalog listing for it (if anyone would care to supply, thanks in advance).  Mars as Mars Pater appears on a denarius from Emesa that I found in the stock of a dealer that I truly dislike. He was asking $250 (about ten times what I then thought it was worth) but since I did not have the type from Emesa, I asked if he was interested in a trade. It ended up costing me a different but very popular Emesa denarius (SS on horseback - which I happened to have as a die duplicate). Later I saw he had put it on sale for $100 more than the one I got. The Mars remains one of my favorite coins just because of how I got it and I am sure the dealer found someone to buy my trade as well so we were both happy. As with the other coin I would appreciate hearing if anyone finds a matching coin. (Do you have one Martin?)
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*sigh* => I've only got a stinkin' old Virtus ... no Mars and/or Ares coins (I'm out) 
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My two entries: 1. Caracalla Denarius, RIC 88, struck at Rome, 207 AD.   OBV: ANTONINVSPIVSAVG - Laureate head right REV: PONTIFTRPXCOSII - Mars advancing right, holding spear and trophy 3.9g, 18mm 2. Crispus Follis, RIC VII 129, struck at Arles, 317 AD:   OBV: CRISPVS NOB CAES, Laureate draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind REV: PRINCIPIA IVVENTVTIS, Mars, naked except for helmet and boots, chlamys flying out behind, advancing right holding transverse spear and shield. R-S across fields, QARL in ex. 2.27g, 18mm.
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Doug's Emesa MARS PATER is a superstar. It is the only one I have seen. I apologise to those who are unable to take part. I was hoping this would be a type that many would have. I have too many as I collected them for a while. Coin #1 - Severus Alexander denarius Obv:-- IMP ALEXANDER PIVS AVG, Laureate head right Rev:-- MARS VLTOR, Mars advancing right, holding a spear and shield Minted in Rome, A.D. 232 References:-- RIC 246, RSC 161a My first ever ancient coin and thus the reason for this SMACKDOWN  Coin #2 - Septimius Severus denarius Obv:-- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right Rev:-- TR P IIII IMP II COS, Mars standing right, resting on spear and shield Minted in Alexandria, A.D. 194 References:-- BMCRE -, RIC -, RSC -. cf. RIN (Rivista Italiana di Nvmismatica Vol. XCVI (1994/1995) My favourite Alexandrian  Martin
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Gorgeous pieces Martin. A remarkable first coin. Congrats.
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Martin's favorite Alexandrian is also an extremely rare coin and probably the nicest of the half dozen I've seen. What is really interesting about it to me is that the reverse was copied legend and all from the Lucius Verus that was posted first in this thread by MartiVltori. In case you have not figured it out yet, Martins Severan collection is nicer than mine. We each have coins the other would like and in a few cases we even have the same coins as each other. My example of this type is a real dog compared to Martin's.
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Yea well mine is like 500 years older  ..... 
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Carinus denarius from Rome. M AVR CARINVS NOB CAES, Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right. MARS VLTOR, mars st..r, holding shield and spear 18mm, 1.8gr, Die 0  Numerian Lugdunum antoninianus. IMP C NVMERIANVS AVG, Radiate and cuirassed bust right. VIRTVS AVGG, Mars standing left holding Victory and Spear. 21,5mm, 2.95gr, Die 0 
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Very nice looking coins, Mr. Harper ... Oh and maridvnvm, I absolutely love your "first ancient ever" => Mars' cape looks a bit like a horse-head (cool coin) ... => keep-up the wonderful show, fellas!! 
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Quote: Very nice looking coins, Mr. Harper ... Mr. Harper? C'mon Jerry, I was gettin' used to Bing. Are you over your hangover, Jerry?
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