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Whizzed Seated Half Dollar ... In Case You've Not Seen One

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 Posted 08/11/2012  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very much so. Some of the older whizzings are far better where you actually see nice cartwheel luster. This one is a bit dull in spots.
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I've always thought of starting a whizzed 7070. I think these coins are beautiful and if properly stated are WAYY cheaper than a quality MS example. Don't get me wrong, I love original MS older coins, but most are out of my means. I just think a properly attributed whizzed 7070 would make a beautiful set.
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I just think a properly attributed whizzed 7070 would make a beautiful set


agreed
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She's a flat one but neither would I kick the old girl out on the street. She's got nice features left, she's just missing a dimension she'll never recover.
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i contacted and this was the sellers response

Sorry but coin was in a ngc slab and its not whizzed. They slabbed it as a ms-64 with no discredits.
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Uh huh .... sure. Sorry, but I don't see no slab. What I do see is swirl marks in the field on the reverse above the eagle.

My 1843 seated half looks different for some reason. Maybe mine's whizzed, and the brushed stainless look of the seller's 58 is original.

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Yeah, if this coin was certified by NGC, why wouldn't they say so in the listing?
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Sorry but coin was in a ngc slab and its not whizzed. They slabbed it as a ms-64 with no discredits.


I love when people say that. The second it comes out of the slab it no longer matters what the slab said. Nothing says it hasnt been enhanced or manipulated after wards. If he wanted NGC 64 attribution to the coin he should have left it in the slab
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he just told me the slab is in pieces and he cant show me any of it
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 Posted 08/12/2012  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The pieces of a shattered slab are meaningless. The coin offered could have easily been manipulated after removal, and furthermore, there is no way to verify that the coin offered is the coin that was encapsulated in the shattered holder.
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Furthermore, if you study the feedback of this seller , you will observe that this ebay member is a frequent customer of Robert Johnson a.k.a. centsles. Need I state any more?
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His attitude alone should be a warning. "Either way I win!!" Yeah, uh, you should be concerned about your CUSTOMER winning. Your very attitude suggests you know you're scamming.
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here was his last communication to me:

"I to am a dealer and I dont believe this coin to be whizzed as the community is thinking it is but I will reslab it at ngc if it doesn't sell this trip. Then after being slabbed I will raise the price to justify the grade as a ms-64 or better will not sell for less than a grand"
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Most people keep the TPG label when they break coins out of the slab. They don't keep the plastic pieces. First the coin is from an estate sale, then he's a dealer and doesn't care if it sells. Frankly, I would stay away from this guy. And yes, that turkey he is pushing as a proof-64 then MS-64 IS whizzed. When zooming in on the photos, hairline scratches are visible.
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Looks like a lot of us have emailed him. This seller, just put up this semi-disclaimer:


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P.S. I have had several e-mails trying to explain to me that this coin has been whizzed. So if you think its been whizzed and still looks like a ms-sixty-five coin then dont bid. If you think its the real deal I priced this coin at ms-sixty money so does whizzing take the value down that much? That is the ultimate question. And if it does take it down then why are so many of you sending me offers that are close to the starting price but just not quiet there yet? Well as a dealer/collector I think I know coins pretty well and it will sell this trip or go back for many years in a vault. Either way I win!
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