Possibilities

Yes, I agree llmyr! Huh?

Great discussion so far though.

Looks like damage on both coins...including the "dropped 1".

When it comes to damage on a coin, you are wasting your time trying to figure out how it was done. There a millions of ways to damage a coin. True mint errors are well documented, because there is a limited number of ways for them to occur at the mint. Things such as off center, MAD's, brockages, struck through errors, incomplete planchets, broadstrikes, etc, all have a logical explanation when you look at the way coins are minted. When the whole process of minting coins is understood, it is easy to tell what is a mint error, and what could not be a mint error. Trying to determine exactly how and why a coin was damaged after being minted is an exercise in futility, because there are just way to many ways to damage a coin and make it look like something special.

Dave