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Doubled Denomination 11c - 1995 Two Full Dates Obverse.

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 Posted 09/09/2012  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe I've spoke with this fellow a year or two ago on ebay about this coin, Actually he seemed like a nice guy just a little misguided as to the value of his coin.Kind of like a used car sales man that knows the car he is selling is a $1000 car but wants a hundred thousand for it.Basically looking for a sucker
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 Posted 09/09/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Basically looking for a sucker

That is exactly what any seller is doing when the actual value is 1/10th of what they are asking for their coin and that 1/10th value is in a respectable TPG holder not ACG. One in an ACG holder may be worth 1/20th of the asking price. I just don't understand why someone would come to an actual forum that has coin collectors on it to talk about their coin when the real collectors know what a coin is worth and will definitely tell others what its actually worth in the thread. Maybe they think they will get the buzz going about their coin before they relist it again on ebay but when you have a situation like this I just don't believe its a good idea to go to a forum where the members know and will share what the coin is actually worth
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 Posted 09/09/2012  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elevencents11c to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

First I came here to discussed coin and to learn more something, Second I do not post this coin to look for a Buyer because this coin is NOT FOR SALE, Third this coin never ever or ask or trying to sell for 250,000.00 like what bryant said. It might be another coin But Not this ONE.
Now I know most of the member here is much more educated than me. Can someone EXPLAIN this PCGS/Coin FACT Encyclopedia/Error: Double Denomination.

One of the most expensive, popular, and desired types of errors are the double denominations. This error happens when a coin is struck on a previously struck coin of another denomination. Examples are a cent on a struck dime, and a nickel on a struck cent. The most dramatic are those with considerable design visible from the original strike.

Thank you in advance.
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First I never said it was you trying to sell this coin for 250k but it is definitely the same coin in the same ACG slab and since you said this in another thread


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When I visit the Baltimore Coin Show in Maryland from 1996- to the end of 1999 No other bourse grader of any Third Party Grading convinced me of the grade or either the safety of my Unique Coin. Then on March 2000, The arrival of Mr. Alan Hager in Baltimore Coin Show, I ask him if he can certified my coins and He said yes? And it takes only about 45 mins-1 Hr. he certified my 1973 Brass Linconl cent AU 58 and other coins, But I was suprised to the 1995 Penny On Dime that it was certified by him


I figured it was you trying to sell it and from that statement I don't know how else to take it. This coin has been discussed many many times on this forum and the price was definitely 250k the seller was asking on ebay and there are allot of proof to prove that was the price that was asked even though the ebay page is no longer available


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Can someone EXPLAIN this PCGS/Coin FACT Encyclopedia/Error: Double Denomination.


It means it is definitely a desirable error as was stated in this thread on page 1 Heritage has examples where some have sold in the $4,000.00 range in PCGS holders but that saying doesn't mean its a coin you can retire on because 4k for a dime is a pretty good amount just because its an error coin. And remember these examples were in a reputable TPG holder and sold at Heritage, Heritage will not even accept a coin for sale in an ACG holder if I remember correctly
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 Posted 09/09/2012  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elevencents11c to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now it is very clear to me I am NOT the ONE because I never ever listed this coin to any auction line for 250K. I am very confident and I am very serious that there's is NO RECORD in my behalf that I am selling this coin for 250K. Maybe another person but NOT ME. Like what I said this coin is NOT FOR SALE. Just wanted to know what does it really mean of COIN FACT ENCYCLOPEDIA of PCGS.

Like this one..(The most dramatic are those with considerable design visible from the original strike.) Thank you again.

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 Posted 09/09/2012  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now it is very clear to me I am NOT the ONE because I never ever listed this coin to any auction line for 250K.


You're right, it was 10 million.

Doubled-Denomination-11c---1995-Two-Full-Dates-Obverse.
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09/09/2012 9:29 pm
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 Posted 09/09/2012  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elevencents11c to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, As I said before this coin never ever listed in any auction line for 250K.
That's all.
And the COIN is NOT FOR SALE!.. I live in OHIO.
Thank u.
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 Posted 09/09/2012  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
alright I stand corrected, the 250k I mentioned was from a post in a thread about this coin and since I didn't have access to the ebay page any longer I was going by that as what was being asked. I am still going to tell you that your coin may be worth 4k if it was in PCGS plastic but you will NEVER sale it to any knowledgeable collector for the amount you are asking because it is not unique as you say (as we have proven many times in this thread) and not really all that rare as they come up for sale rather often
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 Posted 09/09/2012  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You do realize that's the same coin unless someone's making them in their garage right?
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 Posted 09/09/2012  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thread reminds me of the 1858 Indian cent last week, when a new member to the forum requested information, and shortly thereafter, the SAME coin was listed on ebay, and alot of back and fourth with the poster claimimg that the ebay listing was not his.. Long story short, atleast one other forum member besides myself decided this was the end of replying on that thread...
And speaking of errors, I have posted some in the last year on CCF and could overwhelm most if I decided to post over 1000 World Error coins... But being the procrastinator I am, this will never happen...
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 Posted 09/10/2012  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jlg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is great education for those of us learning about the subject! obviously he knows what he has,is he rubbing it in members faces? I'm confused!
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 Posted 09/10/2012  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You do realize that's the same coin unless someone's making them in their garage right?


No doubt about it

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 Posted 09/10/2012  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
elevencents11c (aka redwin117) has been hyping this coin for a couple of years on other forums and has been told what the actual value is but refuses to believe it. He actually believes his coin is valued at $10,000,000. It's worth (on a good day) $5,000 to $6,000 even with it being in an ACCUGRADE slab.

Remember, you can ask whatever you want for a coin but until it actually sells for that amount, it's all fantasy.

I would take anything said about this particular coin with a grain of salt.
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 Posted 09/10/2012  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elevencents11c to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just remember not all the SELLER on ebay own the COIN that they are selling.

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100 Positive FEEDBACK of a SELLER is Trustedtable specially if the seller is more than 2 years on ebay.

Thank you.
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 Posted 09/10/2012  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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obviously he knows what he has,is he rubbing it in members faces? I'm confused!

We don't really mind people bragging about what they have as we have allot of people that like to show their coins. That is not a problem and we love to see the coins that everyone has.

At first I just pointed out that after seeing his pictures I knew what coin this was and then I also understood why he was saying that a TPG that is no longer in business and Most collectors and dealers wont touch because their grading is all over the place, it was because his coin that he thinks is worth 10 million dollars is in one of this companies slabs.

When we see this type of thing as a seller trying to find a fool and then them register on this coin forum and start talking stuff that doesn't make any sense (like promoting the company that has inconsistent grading) and then their next post is showing this coin we start to think they are trying to drum up a buzz about the coin on the forum so he could list it again and when someone does a search on google they see this thread of people praising the cool coin the buyer may just hit the BIN button and that we have a problem with.

If that is not what he is trying to do then its fine and we have no problem with it and thats why this member hasn't been locked out of the forum already (because we don't know his motives yet). It wouldn't matter much now anyway if it was because if someone does google the coin because they are selling it on ebay again they will see this thread and what the coin is actually worth (not the 10 million they were asking for) and see that the coin is NOT UNIQUE like the seller claims and hopefully they can make an educated decision from that. Thats what this site is for, to inform people about coins
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