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 Posted 09/11/2012  10:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello
i just found this 1983 lincoln.Does anyone have an idea what happen to it?

Thanks

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1983-Any-Ideas?

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1983-Any-Ideas?
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 Posted 09/11/2012  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jlg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is a really cool looking coin. wonder what happened to liberty?
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 Posted 09/11/2012  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The line on the reverse is incused?
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 Posted 09/11/2012  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
amida...yes the line on the reverse is incused.:)
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 Posted 09/12/2012  02:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of different things going on with this cent. The area around "liberty" on the obverse appears to be the beginning of a delamination problem. The arc on the reverse if it is indeed incuse is PMD. Not from a Coin Wrapping Machine since it is not concentric. Could be the impression of the rim from another cent. Just my humble opinion, I'm certainly no pro.






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 Posted 09/12/2012  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this is all from PMD. The indent on the reverse caused the plating to crack on the obverse.
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 Posted 09/12/2012  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papatony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Maineman750 as to PMD. In the 4th pic you can see an incused IBE above the LIBERTY as well as the mark on the back. I vote for vise job. There would not be any lamination since it is a 1983 zinc plated cent.
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 Posted 09/12/2012  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys....Diden't think it was something great.And the search continue's :)
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 Posted 09/12/2012  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Told you I was only guessing. I still have a lot to learn, but one thing I am certain about: It's VISE....not VICE.















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 Posted 09/12/2012  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And do not forget to weigh each and every 83 that comes your way.
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 Posted 09/12/2012  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indian...I have a small jar beside my coin search area.All 83"s go in there til its full and then I weigh every one of them.:)
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 Posted 09/12/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking plating failure.
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 Posted 09/12/2012  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just wonder how that "I B E" got above LIBERTY.I held a other coin against this one and if it would had been pressed on it ...the LIBERTY would had been in reverse .
Come on guy's....how did they put it on there.....?
Remeber Iam still learning..lol
Thanks :)
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 Posted 09/13/2012  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sab3927 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Monika, it's Sab. Been thinking about the reverse IBE. What about a reverse transfer? A first strike on another surface would give EBI. Using that struck surface on another surface would give back IBE. It would probably be light though because of the multiple stikes. The second IBE image on the original coin is indeed light. Whatcha think?
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 Posted 09/13/2012  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hallo Sab....this would make sense.That would make it an strike error ..right?.
Thank you Sab :)
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 Posted 09/13/2012  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok...been thinking
It still would been in reverse...meaning the letters would be facing west..the letters on the coin are all facing east.
lol...i just put that coin aside for later....
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