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New Member
United States
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I have a little bit of junk silver that I've collected through the years and a few "collectable" pieces, but I'm wanting to get my feet wet and start a real collection.
Trying to stay away from junk silver just bc it's not as "sexy".
Really like the looks of the hand poured JM bars but don't know if I can justify the mark up.
Thoughts/ideas?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1903 Posts |
You stuck on bars or are rounds and bullion coin in play?
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New Member
 United States
5 Posts |
Honestly, I like the bars but for no specific reason...just like the way they look. Really open to anything...
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Bedrock of the Community
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 Id stay away from the hand poured bars at the current prices. The markup is large and if they stop being the hot item of the week that will disappear. Theres a lot of other very nice silver you can get close to spot like ASEs or even ones with premiums that have historically proven their ability to hold that premium like some of the series from Australia. Personally I just dont understand the hype behind the hand poured. At any time any of the companies could decide to make more of them to capitalize on the hype and theyre no longer rare. Unlike the mint they can make whatever they want whenever they want |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1903 Posts |
Doing my ( biased ) research...I found Silver Pandas of current year a good throw. Yes they have among the higher of the premiums, but once that year edition it done it seems that they sell around $40 regardless of spot, higher if spot goes up.
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10/10/2012 12:12 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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babeball, I agree and disagree on you're hand poured theory.
You won't see engelhard or JM ever making hand poured bars. Except the 1000oz and 100oz JM does.
those two I would pick up a hand poured bar in
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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and also look at what you wanna do with your silver you wanna stuff it away in a safe or display it canada and australia have some of the most awesome looking rounds
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
If you just HAVE to scratch that itch for poured bars (which I can sympathize with), I think the ones offered by Monarch may be as reasonably priced as you could hope for. Definitely hokey lookers and NOT that extruded, machined modern "stacker" type look. Not the cheapest bars on the street either, but really not too bad on cost...plus they come in a wide variety of different weights.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Personally I just dont understand the hype behind the hand poured. At any time any of the companies could decide to make more of them to capitalize on the hype and theyre no longer rare. Unlike the mint they can make whatever they want whenever they want Only a poured bar collector really understands this, BB. Not being a poured bar fan, I don't get it either. Yes, they can make new bars at any time but they cannot make any new 1985 or whatever bars. Only the ones already made will ever exist. Yes, they could make copies of those old bars but collectors being what they are would not be impressed by the new bars and would still hold the old bars in high esteem. That's fine. We all have something or other that we prefer. Good thing that we don't all like the same things or the supply would be minimal and the prices maximal.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Only a poured bar collector really understands this, BB. Not being a poured bar fan, I don't get it either. Yes, they can make new bars at any time but they cannot make any new 1985 or whatever bars  Maybe they cant make bars that were made in 85 anymore but seems like they could replicate it if they really wanted too. I dont think theyre going to any time soon, but at some point if they realize they can sell silver for 5-10X face value its entirely possible they may start. Personally I hope more people become bar collectors. Leaves more of the other stuff for me. I love that the new craze in numismatics is toned coins since I dont like they makes it easier for me to get what I want  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I like poured bars because of that raw feeling. I like engelhards and JM because of their reputation, and I like they way they stack. I will not however pay rediculous premiums over spot though.
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New Member
United States
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Well I bought a 10 oz Engelhard bar today. Probably paid a little too much ($371), but it's unique looking and I thought it to be a good piece to build off of. Here it is, what do you think?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Maybe they cant make bars that were made in 85 anymore but seems like they could replicate it if they really wanted too. Yeah, I'm sure that they could. This is a bit like the JM 1-oz. bars that sort of burst on the scene some months back. Did JM even make those or was the JM name farmed out to some other company? I thought that I read somewhere that the Sunshine Mint produced those but maybe not. Quote:
Personally I hope more people become bar collectors. Leaves more of the other stuff for me. YES! Agree 100%. Competition is usually good in business but it can be over-done. |
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Valued Member
United States
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I l like the new bar... They have a nice feel to the hand.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
863 Posts |
thats not a bad price for an engelhard. where did you buy the bar? a local shop?
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Posted 10/10/2012 12:05 am
