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Goldline War Of 1812 3/4 Ounce

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 Posted 10/31/2012  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More importantly John, why are we selling arguably the most interesting design from the 1812 series to the Yanks exclusively. Very odd seeing the description, where the Americans consider the war the "Second war for Independence". But....they lost....and we burned down and sacked Washington....<Ahem>

Anyway, very nice looking coin. I justified paying $53 total on the secondary market for one by my purchase of the 1/2 ounce Penny for more at retail. I am a sucker for the 1812 coins, and I love the entire series.
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 Posted 11/01/2012  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see that they fixed the description to say it was considered the "second" war of independence. When I first looked at the coin on their website, it incorrectly described it as the "first" war of independence.

Forgive my political bias here, but when I go to the website and see that Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity endorse this coin it makes me NOT want one!
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 Posted 11/01/2012  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nobody won the war 1812.

The American's invaded Canada looking expand, made it past York (now Toronto), and was driven back across the falls.

The British thought it was as good a time as any to retake the Americas, landed in multiple ports including New Orleans, and was driven back to the sea.

After it all, the borders remained more or less the same.
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 Posted 11/01/2012  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goldline have definitely softened their description of the war. Their original rhetoric suggested that the War established America as a "global power".

While borders were ultimately returned to their prewar state, there is little doubt that the British (pre-Canada) were victors over the American aggressors. All of this happened as an aside of the Napoleonic wars.

Canada as a nation, is a result of this war... otherwise we would all be speaking American.
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 Posted 11/01/2012  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got my coin a day ago, looking on it now:
Bullion finish and simple, but very clear design.
The coin is not "overloaded" by details - looks very nice.
The Lion and the Eagle stand a side, while stylized Maple Leaf in the center, double dated - like commemorative coins, with unique "3/4 oz"
and it is Canada Dollar, not generic round.

I like this coin and happy with the purchase.
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 Posted 11/01/2012  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rockdaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canuck1us I know what you mean about Hannity and Beck
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 Posted 11/02/2012  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beck's video is cringe-inducing for sure. I find the sales tactics used to target Americans kindof saddening. It's all doom and gloom, and the dollar is going to tank, and in the end, it's being used to sell overpriced bullion masquerading as a commemorative piece.

But, it just happens that it's a beautiful commemorative piece, so I bit the bullet and splurged.
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 Posted 11/03/2012  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rockdaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just noticed they have a 1/4oz gold coin with the same theme. They say its priced the same as a 1/4oz GML. Anybody know of anywhere else these are for sale or has anyone bought them from goldline and how was the price. 😎
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 Posted 11/03/2012  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agrenier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rockdaddy: It was 668$ a coin when I asked...
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Thanks
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 Posted 11/03/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the 1/4 oz. gold 1812 coin was sold out at 659.00 with a mintage of 2000, how would you feel if you purchased the RCM version now goldline has basicly the same coin for sale right now, what is the RCM doing to the orginal buyer collectors?
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 Posted 11/04/2012  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"the 1/4 oz. gold 1812 coin was sold out at 659.00 with a mintage of 2000, how would you feel if you purchased the RCM version now goldline has basicly the same coin for sale right now, what is the RCM doing to the orginal buyer collectors?"

Tell me about it. A major reason I bought the 2012 silver proof set is for the special pink gold gilded penny. But now the mint release a 1/2oz penny of the same design. It is frustrating... What did I do? Well, I bought the 1/2oz penny (twice) to complete my collection! They look like big and little brothers.
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 Posted 11/04/2012  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rockdaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least the penny's are different sizes. These gold coins are the same size I believe.
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the point is, if you purchased the RCM version of the 1812 1/4 oz.gold coin its suppose to have a mintage of 2000, now the RCM has created the same coin for goldline, the collectors should contact RCM to stop this crazy policy. could you imagine if the RCM at goldlines request produce 100,000 farewell to penny set for them to sell next month?
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 Posted 11/04/2012  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the point is, if you purchased the RCM version of the 1812 1/4 oz.gold coin its suppose to have a mintage of 2000, now the RCM has created the same coin for goldline, the collectors should contact RCM to stop this crazy policy. could you imagine if the RCM at goldlines request produce 100,000 farewell to penny set for them to sell next month?


I know some people may consider the gold coin and/or it's design is less unique now. But isn't that happening all the times these days? Imagine telling people you have a 5oz silver penny at home and they reply "Oh I have one like that in my pocket now".

But look at it this way, many old designs got resurrected after some time, like the 1920 penny design in the penny set was already used in the 2010 "75th Anniversary of the First Canadian Dollar Coin" set, as well as the 1908 penny design was used in the 1998 " RCM 90th Anniversary Proof Set". Or the giant gold maple leaf coin design got copied to the maple leaf forever 2011 1/2 silver coin. Some people complain, but many just don't care. And some collectors will just pick all of them up to complete their collections.
IMHO, re-using a design is quite normal, the resulting coins are still different coins. It's not reminting like what the aussie mint is doing, so that is quite okay. Just my 5 cents.
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