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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ole rusty to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm new to numismatics, so I'm really curious why somebody would do this to a nice quality Peace dollar.

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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dfg04 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not understanding the value of them, and ruining them.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if it was placed in some holder that caused those "clamp marks" How does the reverse look?
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ole rusty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Were they trying to make it into something else? It looks like somebody stamped '0's over it, but did a lousy job of it.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ole rusty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse is perfect and it looks like somebody just punched two circles on the dates. I don't think it was a mint error, but I don't know too much about these things.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course this damage could have occured when the coin was new and only worth a dollar....

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It's not a mint error. It was deliberately done, why?...who knows. Non-collectors just don't know and sometimes don't care. The sad part is that this coin is worth melt now basically :-(
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 Posted 10/15/2012  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albertharris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe into James Bond?
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 Posted 10/16/2012  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mechman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may have been something someone did to commemorate a birthday or anniversary. If you look back there are many different ways of modifying coins for art, with varied results.
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 Posted 10/16/2012  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was it Step 1 in somebody's effort to replace the date with a more valuable one?
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Why? Who knows why now but, hopefully whoever did it didn't do this to any other silver dollars.

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Back in the 1960's the Las Vegas casinos were having problems keeping themselves supplied with silver dollars due to hoarding and the rising price of silver and a lot of them believed it was coin collectors hoarding them.. Several of them had the idea that if the dates were removed people would be much less likely to hoard them and they would remain in use in Vegas. So thousand of dollars had their dates defaced in the hopes that they would stay in use in the casinos. Of course it failed as the coins were still worth more as metal than as coins so they still disappeared into hoards.
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 Posted 10/16/2012  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Learn something new every day!
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Maybe a stupid question, but isn't it illegal to deface US currency?
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From a website of Uncle Sam's:

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Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.


That's paper money, of course. I don't think the prisons are stacked up with hobo nickel hobos and love token lovers.
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Wow, very interesting discussion. Especially appreciated the casino discussion. I never knew that, but can believe it. Very unfortunate, especially because it was one of the best condition dollars in the whole collection I received.
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