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2012 San Francisco Silver Eagle Set (Mintage)

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 Posted 10/22/2012  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted yes, but there were two questions and only one vote. I agree fs is nothing more than market hype. 30 years from now the only thing fs will be good for is determining which dies were used first. And even that is meaningless for some issues as for many all the coins were minted before the shipping began. Not for this issue, I agree. And wouldn't it be ironic if the QC problems were fixed by the time the last die pair were used and "last strike" coins became more valuable?
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 Posted 10/22/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LXShutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ebay gives more of a market value imo because with teletrade and heritage you have to pay a buyers fee which people take into account for their bids keeping the actual sale price artificially low.

Had this been true, the phenomenon of high ebay prices would have been limited to coins, and maybe some other collectibles. The simple truth is that ebay seems to bring out the crazy in buyers. Even if you include BP, Teletrade and others are typically result in lower prices. ebay prices are just unpredictable varying from occasional bargains to frequently very high.


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Whats the point of all that to break even though?

If you don't pay for the FS designation, you get a decent profit.


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Theres no evidence of that with this set because we wont know till it happens. There are indicators with other things that suggest if could very well happen.

Had there been "indicators", that would constitute evidence. It is difficult to claim that FS designation results in a sizable premium, when nearly all of the recent coins carry FS designation and there is very little sales activity for non-FS. If you browse through PCGS Price guide there are even instances when non-FS slabs are listed with higher values than FS in the same grade. If PCGS (who have the biggest incentive to hype up FS) shows that occasionally, that tells me that FS is simply empty hype, and FS premiums mostly are an illusion.
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 Posted 10/22/2012  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Even if you include BP, Teletrade and others are typically result in lower prices. ebay prices are just unpredictable varying from occasional bargains to frequently very high


ebay has more eyes on items so you get more of a retail price but it does go way high and way low as well. Some of it will depend on the part of the country you live in but the ebay price averages are usually pretty close to the retail for online dealers, and cheaper than my local shop which is definitely over prices.


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If you don't pay for the FS designation, you get a decent profit.


If you actually get the 3 70s. Thats to much to risk for to little of a reward for my taste.


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If PCGS (who have the biggest incentive to hype up FS) shows that occasionally, that tells me that FS is simply empty hype, and FS premiums mostly are an illusion.


I agree that it is. My point all along has been if there ever was going to be one it would be for this set, not that there will certainly be one
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