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 Posted 11/16/2012  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's not water or acetone, things get ruined. You shouldn't clean something unless its the way YOU want the coin. I for one cleaned some REALLY rusty 43 steel cents, because I wanted a steel cent not a rusted chip of metal! (I thought they were copper cents until I used a magnet on them, THAT was a lot of rust)
I figured they weren't valuable, and to me they were ugly.

So its your coin. if you like how it turned out, good! It's your piece. Just know that if you touch a coin with harsh solvent (anything past water/acetone)
It a james bond coin:

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 Posted 11/16/2012  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I am sooooo glad that you took before and after pictures.
(Love that little bird!)


What is the reason for freezing the coin? Is that so you can lift off the gunk? (sigh) I know so little about this and I haven't ever tried anything...but I get the urge when I see the greasy black crud on my coins.
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 Posted 11/17/2012  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My (not at all scientific or proven) reason for freezin' was to see if the expansion, then thaw cycle provoked enough movement on a molecular level to remove some of the crud. My theory was that when the DI froze around the coin and subsequently expanded, this was maybe enough to remove some, in the most gentle fashion. Since the crud appears to be petroleum based (grease), rather than organic, this wasn't particularly efficacious.

As I mentioned in another post, I'm popping over to a metalurgist friend next week to have a borrow of his XRF gun. This man could talk the birds out of the trees when it comes to chemistry/metalurgy, so I shall be speaking to him regarding the finer points of the oxygen/copper/ionic reactions which are taking place, and more importantly, what sort of chemical reaction I want to precipitate in order to achieve the desred result (crud removed; patina/colouration retained)

In response to something mentioned earlier, I'll make sure I photograph and time the experiment.

I know it is probably tantamount to blasphemy to a numismatist, but I am sure, with my rudimentary knowledge, that the coin could probably be stripped clean to bare copper, then have the patina/colour restored with some sort of CVD process. A wee bit far for a £20 coin, but interesting nonetheless. My experience in semiconductor engineering suggests to me that there is little that cannot be manipulated on an ionic/atomic level, assuming the appropriate gasses, temperatures and pressures.

I also must make clear that I am in no way attempting this to rip some poor bugger off with a "1st class specimen". I'll be keeping the coin whatever happens, so my motive is not to deceive! I just don't want gunky coins!
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 Posted 11/17/2012  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know that freezing works for removing gum that gets stuck on clothes or whatever. But you have to work fast because the moment it warms up, it is gummy again.

The problem with removing the gunk is that you don't know what's under it. I think it could leave a spot that is stained or brighter than the rest of the coin.

Anyway, as far as I know there are no mild solvents that can remove dirty grease. So I think we'd better enlist the microbes.

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 Posted 11/17/2012  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am aware that peroxide is an oxidating agent. I know the effects an oxidating agent has on metals. I was asking Thad to explain it as the only comment was don't use it it is horrible. I thought a clarification would be a good thing.

Next time I will just keep my fingers shut. Sheesh.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
40% H2O2 can oxidize your skin also. Careful! I wouldn't use it on a coin either.
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