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Please Help To ID Fourrã©e Antoniavs Pivs Denariu

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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add monetanova to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Av: ANToNIAVS PIVS AVG, not bearded portrait.
Reverse figure looks barbarous, but not sure. Googled nothing similar.
Thanks for any input.

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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eddop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
antoninus pius avg; maybe Elagabalus?
Reverse a spooky kind of SPES?

Something like this Antioch coin:
http://www.auctiones.ch/browse.html...on=1&lot=430
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11/20/2012 11:52 am
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dionysos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say it's meant to be a Caracalla with Genius on reverse A fourrée (unofficial).
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 Posted 11/20/2012  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wierd looking coin, but, if is is anyone of the emperor's I believe Eddop and Dionysos are correct.
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 Posted 11/20/2012  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monetanova to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! Spes walking left, holding flower - thats probably the right description for reverse. Obverse is still very puzzling, despite the style very close to official issue.
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 Posted 11/20/2012  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dionysos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse (Caracalla)...

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Reverse (it's a branch, not a flower )...

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 Posted 11/20/2012  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monetanova to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok ;-)
Many thanks, Dionysos!
So it's hybrid fourrée strucked from dies available at the moment to the forger?
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 Posted 11/20/2012  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
monetanova's coin is a fourree, not an official issue, of Caracalla. For more about ancient imitations, see:
http://esty.ancients.info/imit/
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Maybe it's possible to locate the exact legend prototype (as I believe it's copied not fantasied) for reverse. I can see only these letters:
(..)V A RPA(..)
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that's a crazy looking reverse...i dig it, whatever it is.
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 Posted 11/21/2012  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not antonius pius, in my ipinion
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 Posted 11/21/2012  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is FVNDATOR PACIS a common reverse of Septimius but this is Caracalla and quite barbarous so anything goes.
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Thanks, Doug. I'll post better photos after inspection in hands. Letters seem to be readable.
Also after seeing similarities ( official obverse and barbarous reverse) with this specimen - http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=226589 - I'm convinced that it is a barbarous imitation.
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