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 Posted 12/09/2012  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the years I have been collecting I have never heard the term "swims" before. Now this kind of touches on a pet peeve of mine. As someone who has spent a lot of time scouring ebay trying to find deals to collect/sell I absolutely hate all the junk that one has to endure in that process. It's like that word trinary which is just a way of trying to make a fancy serial number out of a worthless serial number. Now we have the flipper/rotator being one of those as well. I for one don't (and won't) buy it.

[RANT]A flipper/rotator is and will always be a serial number that reads the same right side up and upside down. Swims and trinary are the work of satan![/RANT]
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 Posted 12/09/2012  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Bill Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickelman,
That was the way it was explained to me.

The word SWIMS is the same forward, backwards, right side up or up side down. A flipper note has a number right side up and a different number up side down, I didn't get this from e bay or invent it myself. Somewhere there is a glossary of terms used by currency collectors, I seen it many years ago but never keep a copy of it as at that time I wasn't interested.

At that time I swore I would never collect currency by "numbers" as I was trying to build a year and type collection in both Large and Small size and did not care what serial number the note had.

Things are different now and being that I'm so far ahead into the series years and type I just may start collecting some by numbers.
I never thought I would say that but times do change.

The friend that sent me the explanation of flipper and swims should be getting back to me today with the accepted glossary of terms that has been used buy currency collectors.
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 Posted 12/09/2012  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Bill Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FOUND IT,
I've been told that this currency glossary is nothing new, it's been around since the 1990's and has been accepted by those that collect currency.

I can see where this could be very helpful to any new currency collector, is there any way this link can be set up as a sticky, it would be a shame to lose it again.
Check it out:
http://www.panix.com/~clay/currency/glossary.html
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 Posted 12/09/2012  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I totally get that TBC my rant isn't anything personal.

I can relate it another way. The term binary is a number with a series of ones and zeros. Then binary became a series of numbers that simply had two different digits. So people started using "true binary" to refer to the serial with just ones and zeros. I suppose we could do the same for a flipper and a "true flipper"
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 Posted 12/09/2012  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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FOUND IT,
I've been told that this currency glossary is nothing new, it's been around since the 1990's and has been accepted by those that collect currency.


Irregardless of how long something has been out I just can't see any value in a serial that even if it can be read upside down is just a worthless number such as 80016980. It's worthless right side up and equally worthless upside down.
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 Posted 12/09/2012  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BC, is the collector who sent the info Canadian? Per my understanding, they are the ones who started collecting rotators / flippers / swims etc...

NICK what do you think? My one and only...the embossing is amazing...check it out.

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"Irregardless of how long something has been out I just can't see any value in a serial that even if it can be read upside down is just a worthless number such as 80016980. It's worthless right side up and equally worthless upside down"

Nickelman,
I felt about the same way many years ago, collecting currency because of the number was not the way to collect currency. But now that I have come so far with my currency collection I've found that I'm trying to up grade my collection when there's really no need to, most of it is in XF + + + and has good eye appeal.

As to any number being worthless, yes number 80016980 may not be anything special in itself, but it becomes 08691008 when flipped, so it's a flipper to most collectors that collect such things, and you cant do that with every note or any note that has 7's, 3's 4's etc in the number, so from what I can tell it's worth while to some, just not to you.
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 Posted 12/09/2012  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Bill Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ceylon62,
I'm not sure where he's from, but now I'm told that the glossary has been around since before the internet, it just wasn't as widely spread as it is now.
Nice note, and a flipper also.
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Well, guess I'm going to start a numbers collection, will be doing it with $ 1.00 as that should be the most economical way for me to do it. I've never done something like this before so will be using the glossary terms for currency as I need something to go by.

This is what I'm going to attempt to put in the collection with out any concern about the year of issue or type of note as long as it's a small size $ 1.00 in XF + or better.

Am going to try an find at least one of each:
FLIPPER, RADAR, SWIMS, BINARY, BIRTHDAY, BOOKEND, QUAD, REPEATER, SOLID, LOWEST NUMBER I CAN FIND,
HIGHEST NUMBER I CAN FIND, LADDER, etc.

Did I leave anything out.
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 Posted 12/09/2012  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Well, guess I'm going to start a numbers collection


Another one converted to the dark side


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NICK what do you think? My one and only


I see your a believer in ones count as well. Too bad the district letter isn't an I then it would be a "complete true flipper"

Edited for punctuation.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh contraire Nick, I will sell / trade that note to the right person. I got it a while back as it was on a $2.

BC... This (fancy sn's) can get technical, stay with the good stuff (chcu) even on the cheap items. My 2 cents.

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Did I leave anything out.


YES...PI....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi.....

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12/11/2012 09:28 am
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