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1868 3 Cent Error Coin?

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 Posted 12/25/2012  6:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ray123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Interestingly the left most column in the back has an extra partial ridge. And on the front there seems to be a double strike of some sort. Was wondering if this error is rare or some what common for 3 cents?
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12/26/2012 4:48 pm
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 Posted 12/25/2012  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clashes (double strike) are very common for this series - it was the first time the mint used nickel and had a bit of a learning curve. Machine Doubling is also very common and cool and it looks like you may have some cracks starting on the reverse.

Very nice 1868!
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 Posted 12/25/2012  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfanmorgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool coin. Looks like there is some doubling.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a lot going on with this coin. I see die clashing on the obv, some very strong Longacre doubling on ATES OF, on the reverse there are several die cracks, excessive die polishing has removed some of the ribbons, and I'm ot sure what is going on at the top left of the first I.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmmm, it sure looks like it was struck with a clashed die, showing signs of the clash under "AMERICA", ONLY, I don't see where any part of the design in the clashed area on the obverse side matches the exact shape on the reverse...

It could well be that the obverse die was clashed with a different die denomination (it wouldn't be the first coin with a clash from another denomination)...

I increased my zoom level to 400% and still couldn't locate a match, unless the reverse die had been rotated prior to coming in direct contact with the with the obverse die (and taking that into consideration, still can't find a exact match).

There is a forum member that posts coin overlay images and hopefully if they view this post, they can post the overlay.

Maybe others can chime in.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! This coin is the poster coin for what could go wrong at the mint. Die clashes, Machine Doubling, die cracks, die chips and over-polishing. Great example! I love it.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Broken-coin, I was wondering the same thing about that clash. Hope someone figures out what this was clashed with, or I won't be able to sleep at night! What prize should the winner get?
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No, wait; I think I win. Clashed with its own reverse, below the last A in AMERICA you can see the inner edge of the olive leaves of the third cluster from the top on the right side of the wreath. In Liberty's hair at the nape of her neck, you can see the outer edge of the upper portion of the rightmost I of the III. Will try to play with some image superimpositions when I get home, unless someone beats me to it.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ray123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link to higher resolution images:
http://ray1234.smugmug.com/Coins/3n...63530_hfwqPq
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 Posted 12/26/2012  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, this is the best I can do with my limited skills. The reverse is in mirror image, as the clash would be:

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Thanks for all the feedback; I learned a lot. Now to summarize, this coin has both a double strike and a clashed die? I did a quick check on ebay and couldn't see a 3 cent with both errors, but may be I wasn't using the correct terms. Also I am wondering if this coin is worth sending it for grading? Considering I am not sure how much it is worth as it is.
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 Posted 12/28/2012  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, there is no double striking on this coin. See my earlier comment. It is NOT worth sending in for grading unless you want to spend almost as much for grading as what the finished coin will be worth.
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 Posted 12/28/2012  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, all these errors are very common, even in multiple combinations.
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pretty coin
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 Posted 01/05/2013  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roderick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Three Cent Nickel is very prone to various errors that come mostly from the fact that the US Mint did not have the technological expertise to coin a metal as hard as copper nickel. The copper nickel Indian Head cents and the five cent Shield nickel are also rife with minting errors, mainly die cracks, the Indian Head cent having small cracks and the Shield five cent nickel having mainly quite grand ones.

By the way, would anyone be able to verify the use of nickel in the 3 cent and 5 cent coins to Lincoln's attempt to earn the political support of Wisconsin's two senators through a favor?
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